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Free Trade Forever

TRADE ADJUSTMENT ACT
rewarding workers for being irresponsible

$500 challenge!

You get $500 if you can prove that the trade deficit is a bad thing.


Are labor unions beneficial to society, or parasitic?



Good Message Boards

good debates, philosophy, politics, economics, social issues

Below are some good message boards which are easy to get into. You have to register, but it's easy and you can post right away. These ones are open to all viewpoints. They don't kick you off or censor you arbitrarily as long as you obey the reasonable rules of politeness, etc.

These boards let you move from one post to another on the same topic without needing to click to another page. You can just scroll down through multiple messages which address the topic and argue with each other. These are a great debate forum for people who like to argue. Arguing is good.

FreeStateProject.org
Libertarian-oriented. Proposals for freedom-lovers to all move to one state and try to "take it over." Philosophical arguments about how to pull this off and what should happen in the "free state" after they "take it over."

3rdParty.org
Another minor political party. Maybe the best. Has a "Convention Floor" (message board) which lets participants shape the party's policies/platform proposals. Not necessarily conservative or liberal or moderate or ----. Just seeking the best positions on all the issues. (Note: This message board has had technical problems which hopefully will be (or are) fixed.)

XAT.org
Perhaps a little flaky, this one. Kumbayah, sweetness and light, butterfly wings, etc. But open to all viewpoints. Proposes a new economic system without taxes or "usury". But you can disagree and offer your own theories.

LibertyForum.org
Mostly libertarian. Lots of topics, easy to get lost.

More sites will be added to this list. This listing will be limited to high-quality message board sites only which allow easy access and are open to all viewpoints on the announced topics.



Here are some other pages/topics of interest:

PoliticalPlatform.net
Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, move over! Here is the "Best Political Platform" for the U.S.

FreeTradeForever.com

Neolib.net What is a "neoliberal"? Have you heard this term being thrown around? What is neoliberalism? Is this a political philosophy someone is promoting?

Night Owl Mk. II Philosophy of Life Good arguments, "Agree with me or show me where I'm wrong"

Minimum Wage Law Who is made better off by a minimum wage law? If such a law is good for society, why not increase the minimum wage to $30 or $40 or $50 per hour?

SocialContract.com

Labor Theory of Value Does anyone really defend the labor theory of value anymore? Where are you Marxists? Come and defend this theory or admit that Marxism makes no sense. Have you all jumped ship?

Write-in.net

That's a Lie! A listing of lies popularly told and accepted in society. Know any good lies? Add your own example(s) to the list.

OK2Kill When is killing right and when is it wrong? Capital punishment, euthanasia, etc.

Eugenics.net

ForbiddenIdeas.com like those just above. Do you know of any good "forbidden ideas"? ideas that make some people (the mindless idiot types) want to call you a commie or nazi or worse, just for mentioning them? Have some fun -- get called something evil by adding your own "forbidden idea" to the list. You haven't lived life to the fullest until you've been called a dirty name by some idiot.

WhyTheyHateUs.net The "war on terror" // Militant Islam vs. the West

DebateClub.net

Extensive list of minor political parties (You might have to scroll down a little to get past the 2 major parties.)

Shorter list of alternative political parties (some of the more serious ones):

The Third Party

The Revolution

Constitutionalist Party

Multicapitalist Party


Do you know of a good website that should be listed with the above? The best kind are those that are controversial and give some invitation to visitors to get their own opinions posted in response.

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more subsidies to crybaby laid-off workers

This is posted in response to current (6-02) proposed legislation to compensate laid-off workers who are thought to be victims of cheap foreign imports, or of foreign competition due to increased global trade.

The uncompetitive who suffer from increased global trade will always whine that they are victims of some kind of injustice, and they will come back again and again with their crybaby remedies, demanding that they be subsidized in one form or another.

The main point to keep in mind is this: No matter who the "victims" are, no matter when or where, any program which tries to compensate them and give them any special treatment can only make most of us worse off and do damage to the economy.

The policy of the government should be to do what is right for the country as a whole, for the greatest number of citizens, for the long-term good of all of us. It should not be to pander to a select group of crybabies to give them a short-term benefit at the expense of the rest of us.

Giving any special benefit to laid-off workers has exactly the wrong effect: it rewards irresponsibility and erases any reward to those who behave responsibly and do the right thing.

Laid-off workers are people who did not do what they should have done. What they should have done was to get out of that uncompetitive dead-end job and find a place in the economy where we really need them. If they are responsible, they will plan ahead. They will take note of the trends in their line of work, and if the demand for them is decreasing, they will adjust -- they will retrain, they will do whatever they have to do to make themselves competitive again.

Responsible persons will not simply stay in that uncompetitive job and wait for the inevitable layoff and then complain that they got a raw deal. No, if they do that they are irresponsible and it is their fault whatever happens.

Unskilled workers in auto factories, steel mills, textile mills, and other places where the demand is decreasing have an obligation to change, to be aware of what is happening in those industries and of the decreasing demand for them in that job, and they have an obligation to do what is necessary to prepare and to get out of that uncompetitive situation as soon as possible.

And they have an obligation to tell their children NOT to aspire to that same job, to tell them the truth -- that this job is no longer competitive, that such workers are less valuable than they used to be and are becoming expendable, and it no longer makes sense to be a "proud" steelworker or autoworker, etc. Such workers are no longer the "backbone" of the country, but rather are becoming parasites and less and less useful and more of a burden on the economy. TELL THEM THE TRUTH!

Stop telling the lie that somehow you are a productive member of society simply because you show up at 8 a.m. everyday and burn some calories at the factory. Showing up and burning calories is not what makes a worker productive. Swinging a hammer, pulling a lever, operating a power tool, throwing metal around, slamming and banging and making a racket and getting your clothes dirty -- this is not what constitutes productivity.

What is true productivity? True productivity is

SATISFYING CONSUMER DEMAND

and if consumers can be satisfied better by cheap foreign labor, then guess what: You are expendable and unnecessary and worthless, despite all those levers and power tools and buttons and all that metal banging and slamming or whatever it is you do in that factory. None of that makes you valuable if someone else can put out the same final product better or cheaper.

And what happens when the government enacts special subsidies to laid-off workers? Does this encourage uncompetitive workers to change and make themselves truly valuable and productive instead of only going through the pretense of being productive? Does it encourage them to become responsible and do the right thing? Hardly. It does the opposite. It gives them reassurance that there's no problem with remaining in that uncompetitive job -- don't worry about it, the government will take care of you if you get laid off.

It discourages those workers who have the foresight to plan ahead and take responsibility to change before the layoffs come, while it gives special benefits to those uncompetitive workers who procrastinate and wait until the layoffs take place.

The benefits to these workers in the current legislation include the following: A subsidy to their new wage, if they switch to a new job which pays less; continuance of their former health-care insurance at taxpayers' expense; and special job training programs not available to anyone except laid-off workers who can prove they were hurt by foreign competition.

An income-maintenance program such as this not only rewards people for doing the wrong thing, it fosters the pernicious notion that people are entitled to have their income sustained even though their value has gone down. In other words, it promotes a sort of caste system, or system of tenure, rewarding people who reached a certain income level, maintaining them at that level, even though they are no longer earning that income.

Why should there be such an entitlement in society? Why shouldn't people be required to keep on earning that income as a condition to continue receiving it?

These benefits are not available to workers who take responsibility to change and quit the job before the layoffs. These workers could not prove they were hurt by foreign competition, because they quit voluntarily, before the layoffs. They might have to settle for a lower wage than before, and they might also lose their health insurance, or settle for a policy which is less attractive. They might also need to retrain for their new job.

They must bear all this sacrifice at their own expense. They're not entitled to the same tenure and income maintenance which their irresponsible co-workers gained by doing the wrong thing

These workers, the responsible ones, who did the right thing, who took the initiative to improve themselves, who got off their butt instead of whining and who became better humans, better citizens, these ones of superior character -- they effectively get punished because they did what was right. While the crybabies who stayed in that uncompetitive job and only whined instead of doing anything to improve themselves -- they get rewarded with subsidies.

And who pays for the reward to the laid-off crybabies who were irresponsible? The taxpayers, all the rest of us, including those who were responsible and did improve themselves and changed careers when they should have. Many of them are worse off than the laid-off crybabies who get the subsidies. The subsidized ones get their $15/hour or $20/hour wages plus expensive health care insurance at the expense of the rest of us, many of whom are struggling to survive on much less and cannot afford health insurance.

Rewarding irresponsible uncompetitive parasites and punishing those who are responsible and earning their own way and struggling to survive -- that's what the Trade Adjustment Act is all about.

So it is the irresponsible ones, the ones of lower inferior character, who get rewarded by the "trade adjustment" provisions. We won't create a better economy or better country by rewarding people for being parasitic and irresponsible. Those who do the wrong thing should not get any benefit that isn't available to everyone else.

The way to deal with those who are uncompetitive is not to pity them and shower them with charity benefits, but to tell them the harsh reality: that it is their fault and they must take responsibility to change and make themselves more competitive; no one owes them anything -- not the taxpayers, not corporations, not consumers -- no one is obligated to babysit them and bail them out.

They should get no special programs that aren't available to everyone else. If a job training (or retraining) program should be made available to those who want to improve themselves, it should be for everyone, not offered exclusively to those who were laid off because of cheap foreign imports, as though they are special victims. They were not victimized -- they made their choices. It's time for them to grow up and take responsibility for those choices and stop the whining.


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