Posted 12-21-00
Husseini said Israel and the PA must first attain a general solution - something he says the sides failed to do at Camp David - which can be nothing other than a Palestinian state alongside an Israel that has withdrawn to the June 4, 1967 borders. After that, he said, we could deal with what he terms the "problems" - the Western Wall, the Old City's Jewish quarter, and the Mount of Olives Cemetery.
Though Husseini repeatedly stressed that there is no military solution for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, he said he could understand Palestinian shooting at the Jerusalem neighborhood of Gilo, as it was the result of "settlement building in the capital," which Israelis should take as a warning.
"The Palestinians saw that Israel did not stop settlement activity ..."This [shooting] was a message to Israelis: Don't continue building settlements," Husseini said.
Asked what he could say to Jerusalemites concerned that the shooting attacks on Gilo could spread to other Jerusalem neighborhoods... Husseini was reassuring: "With an accord, nothing like this will happen."...
"Without solving the Palestinian problem, there will be no stability in the Middle East. Conversely, a Palestinian state would pave the way towards regional cooperation in the region," which he said both Israel and the PA sorely need.
Husseini insists that a final peace deal is attainable...
Peace, Husseini said, would benefit all Jerusalemites. "We don't want to see a Berlin wall going up; we want one city with two capitals in it....
thought you might find this very interesting I just recently found your site. I believe that you are right about Pentecost and the rapture. I did think that it would be around the feast of Trumpets. A believer
II Sam. 7:23 says, "what one (echad, united) nation (US) in the earth is like thy people, even like Israel, whom God went to redeem for a people to himself (our money still says, "In God we trust"), and to make him a name, and to do for you great things and terrible, for thy land, before thy people."
Wondering about "terrible," I looked it up in Strong's. It means both to cause to frighten and to be had in reverence. That's not a lot of help. I turned to Gesenius and found the same spread of meanings. However, II Sam. 7:23 is listed under meaning (3) stupendous, admirable." Whew! I'm glad of that. A country that is against Israel will not fare well.
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> > Christ was not a mere man, and since "in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" (Col. 2:9), he knew, but he didn't want it known at that time.
I agree with the first part. Jesus was not merely man, He was God. But it is obvious that He was not using His deity powers. The miracles that He performed, He did with the authority He had as a man that was sinless that had authority over the spirit realm. As we abide in Him, we have been given that same authority. Matthew 18 says, that "whatever we bind on earth is bound in heaven and whatever we lose on earth is loosed in heaven". Luke 10:19 says, "Behold, I give unto you power (or authority) to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." Because we have that authority, John 14:12 says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me (believing is doing the Word, using that authority), the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."
You said "Jesus knew, but he didn't want it known at that time." You couldn't have meant to say that. Luke 13:32 clearly says, "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Jesus did not know. Why? Because although He was God He emptied himself of His deity powers, one of which was omniscience, the ability to know all things. As a child, He could not have "grown in wisdom and stature" if He was omniscient. Philippians 2:7 says, "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:" The word for reputation in the Greek, kenoo, also can be translated "to make empty". Several other translations say that Jesus "emptied himself" to become a servant". What did He empty himself of? Omnipresence, omnipotence, and omniscience, the powers of an almighty God. When He was on the cross He was purposely impotent, so that as the Son of Man, He could identify with us and take on the sins of the world. So in conclusion, JESUS DID NOT KNOW WHEN HE WAS TO COME AGAIN at that time. He now knows because after He rose from the grave He went to heaven to sit at the right hand of the Father, where He is presently omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient.
On the interpretation of Matthew 24:43, you asked me if I was sure and proceeded to give me your interpretation. I can't say that I am sure, but there are reasons why I believe my interpretation fits better. Before I give those reasons let me review what you said . . > > Are you sure? Verse 51 only takes us up to the point where the foolish virgins get cut off at the 1st Rapture. I thought the goodman of the house was the minister of a church. In this case, Christ would come and break up his house because he would take the wise virgins and leave the foolish ones behind. As a thief, he would take things of much worth and leave things of little worth behind.
I think that the parallel passage in Luke 12 makes it even clearer who the "goodman" is. Verse 39 says, "And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through." In the verses that precede verse 39, the subject is the foolish virgin that has been left behind, and is now a "goodman". Verse 36 identifies the "goodman" as "men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding". The next verse, (37), says, "Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them". These servants who missed the wedding are exhorted to watch so they don't miss the marriage supper that occurs after the second rapture.
Now, in verse 39, the subject does not change. The "goodman" is talking about those foolish virgins that are referenced in the preceding verses I just mentioned. They have just been exhorted to watch for the second rapture because they failed to watch for the first rapture. It says that "if he, the goodman, would have watched (for the first rapture) he would not have suffered HIS house to be broken through. You said, "Christ would come and break up his house". This verse is referring to the house of the goodman, not the house of Christ. To say the goodman is just a minister of a church, when the context points to it referring to the "foolish virgins" does not click with me. Plus it is talking about the "goodman's" house being broken into, not a house that is symbolic of the entire body of Christ.
Plus I cannot see the thief, being Jesus. No where in the Bible is Jesus spoken of as breaking into houses. The Word does say he comes AS or LIKE a thief to the world and to those that are not watching, but the comparison made to Jesus, is one of a thief coming by surprise and not one of the deed. John 10 tells who the thief is. Verse 1 says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber." So the thief referenced in this verse does not use the door, but breaks into the sheepfold (the house). Verse 10 identifies him. "The thief (Satan) cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am (Jesus) come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly." It is clear that Jesus is not the thief that breaks into houses. Speaking of the great Gog Magog UN army that is headed by the false prophet that is incarnated by the thief, Satan . . . Joel 2:9 says, "they shall enter in at the windows like a thief." The false prophet won't just be doing this on the day of the Lord, but before during the breaking of the fifth seal. Although the first beast won't be incarnated by Satan, but only possessed by Satan's demons, I believe he too will be breaking into houses (during the first half of the tribulation) to persecute tribulation saints and could also fit the label of thief in this verse.
In summary, you could be right in your interpretation, but I just think it is reading into things too much to call the thief, Jesus, and the house, the entire body of Christ . . . when it fits to name the thief, Satan (working through the false prophet and the anti-christ) as other scripture seems to say and the house as the literal house of the goodman, the foolish virgin left behind. Especially with the breaking of the fifth seal, the "goodmen" of the world will be hunted by the thief, manifested as the false prophet, who will be breaking into their houses to find them and kill them.
I can see how your interpretation is possible. Can't you see how this interpretation fits, in my view, even a little better? The goodman is further identified in the verses that follow (verses 41-47) when Jesus talks about two groups, one He calls faithful and wise (wise virgins that are watching), in verse 42, and one that is not watching, into the world and saying "My Lord delayeth His coming" (the foolish virgins), in verse 45. The goodman who "would have watched" fits the latter category. Your brother in Jesus
That is what is go great about being on the Internet. I can discuss things with others and learn more than I could ever do by myself. I think the Lord gives different people insight into different areas. It also makes me look hard at certain things I might bypass on my own. It keeps me studying, and I love that. As I have said before, we don't have to agree, just try to see what it really means. No human is right all the time. We adjust our views as we learn.
> > I agree with the first part. Jesus was not merely man, He was God. But it is obvious that He was not using His deity powers.
Jesus usually spoke as a man, but he could know as God and speak as God if he desired. As a man, he did not always know what he knew as God. He had 2 complete natures. One nature was NOT INCOMPLETE.
Surely he had all the powers of the Godhead bodily all the time after his baptism, or he wouldn't have said he and his Father were one (Jn. 10:30), the Father is in me" (Jn. 10:38), or who has seen me has seen the Father (Jn. 14:9). I Cor. 15:47 says, "The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven."
Jn. 4:46-52 reveals his deity. He talked to a man in Cana, and the man's sick son was in Capernaum. Jesus healed the son without being told where he was or what was wrong with him other than he was about to die. This revealed Jesus' deity, and the man knew it. So, he "himself believed, and his whole house" (v. 53).
Jn. 8:24 says, "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins." Verse 27 says, "They understood not that he spake to them of the Father." Verse 29 says, "he that sent me is WITH ME: the Father hath NOT left me alone."
Jn. 10:15 says, "As the Father knoweth me, EVEN SO KNOW I THE FATHER." Jn. 10:38 says, "though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is IN ME, and I in him." Jn. 14:10 says, "the Father that dwelleth IN ME, he doeth the works." Jn. 16:28 says, "I came forth from the Father." II Cor. 5:19 says, " God was IN Christ, reconciling the world unto himself." Col. 2:9 says, "For in him dwelleth ALL THE FULLNESS of the Godhead bodily,"
> > of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
Still, the Father was in the Son. That is why the word "man" is there. As God, Christ knew. As man, he did not know. It is kind of a trick statement too, because Christ was not a mere man, although he had a complete human nature inherited from his mother. He had that, and more. Isa. 9:6 shows that his deity was "given," not inherited in the same way as his human nature was inherited from his mother. It says, "unto us a child is born (inheriting his human nature from his mother), unto us a son is given (getting his deity from his Father): and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER." In Rev. 1:8, Jesus said, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, THE ALMIGHTY." He is the Redeemer, the LORD (YHVH) of hosts of Isa. 44:6. It says, "Thus saith the LORD (YHVH) the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD (YHVH) of hosts; I am the first, AND I am the last; and beside me there is no God." In Rev. 1:11 he said, " I am Alpha AND Omega, the first AND the last." In Rev. 1:17, he said, "I am the first AND the last." Rev. 2:8 says, "These things saith the first AND the last, which was dead, and is alive." In Rev. 22:13, Jesus Christ said, "I am Alpha AND Omega, the beginning AND the end, the first AND the last."
> >You said "Jesus knew, but he didn't want it known at that time." You couldn't have meant to say that. Luke 13:32 clearly says, "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Jesus did not know. Why? Because although He was God He emptied himself of His deity powers, one of which was omniscience, the ability to know all things.
I meant it. He did not know as a "MAN." As God, he knew. The YHVH of hosts is the one with whom man has always had to deal. He was the LORD that came down and talked with Moses at Sinai and gave Moses the 10 commandments. Isa. 48:16-18 says, "Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD (the Father), and his Spirit (the Spirit of God, the Spirit of Christ, Rom. 8:9), hath sent me (the pre-incarnate Christ). Thus saith the LORD (YHVH), thy Redeemer (YHVH of hosts, the pre-incarnate Christ), the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go. O that thou hadst hearkened to MY COMMANDMENTS!"
The LORD of hosts is the God of Israel. At Sinai, Ex. 24:9,10 says, "Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel: And THEY SAW THE GOD OF ISRAEL: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone (symbol of Heaven), and as it were the body of heaven (i.e., the heavenly body)." They SAW the God of Israel, Yet Jn. 1:18 says, "NO MAN HATH SEEN GOD (the Father) at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared (exegeomai, led out, brought forth, "told," as in Lu. 24:35) him."
Man deals with the Son in all Ages. He was the angel of the LORD that talked with Abraham just before Lot was brought out of Sodom. Abraham SAW him. Gen. 18:1,2 says, "the LORD APPEARED UNTO HIM in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him." One of these "men" was the angel of the LORD. After telling them that Sarah would have a son, the 2 literal angels went to Sodom to get Lot out, "but Abraham stood yet before the LORD (YHVH)" (Gen. 18:22).
> > As a child, He could not have "grown in wisdom and stature" if He was omniscient.
I am talking about him after his baptism, when the Spirit of God came upon him.
> > Philippians 2:7 says, "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:" The word for reputation in the Greek, kenoo, also can be translated "to make empty". Several other translations say that Jesus "emptied himself" to become a servant". What did He empty himself of? Omnipresence, omnipotence, and omniscience, the powers of an almighty God.
I don't think he emptied himself of his powers, for in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. He just did not show those powers all the time, because he came to die as a man in our stead. He had the power to lay down his life and the power to take it up again. Jn. 10:18 says, "No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I HAVE POWER to lay it down, and I HAVE POWER to take it again." Christ took it again when the man, Jesus, was dead.
> > JESUS DID NOT KNOW WHEN HE WAS TO COME AGAIN at that time. He now knows because after He rose from the grave He went to heaven to sit at the right hand of the Father, where He is presently omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient.
How could one that was already omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient, lose omnipotence, omnipresence and omniscience?
> > I think that the parallel passage in Luke 12 makes it even clearer who the "goodman" is. Verse 39 says, "And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through." In the verses that precede verse 39, the subject is the foolish virgin that has been left behind, and is now a "goodman". Verse 36 identifies the "goodman" as "men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding".
Mt. 20:11 says of the lord of the vineyard's penny, "when they had received it, they murmured against the GOODMAN OF THE HOUSE." That goodman of the house is the "STEWARD" (v. 8) of the Lord, who is over his Church. Mk. 14:14 says, "wheresoever he shall go in, say ye to the GOODMAN OF THE HOUSE, The Master (Christ) saith, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?"
In Lu. 12:32, Jesus addressed the "little flock" that were to be given "the kingdom." In verses 34-44, Jesus was addressing this same "little flock." Verses 45-47 speak of the foolish servant.
Lu. 12:34-44 says, "where your treasure is (Heaven), there will your heart be also. Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning (have the oil of the Holy Spirit, i.e., be wise virgins); And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from (ek, from the place of, Thayer) the wedding (gamos, a marriage festival, Thayer; i.e., when he comes from Heaven); that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately. BLESSED are those servants (i.e., the wise servants that are not left behind), whom the lord when he cometh (at the Pre-Trib Rapture) shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, BLESSED are those servants (the wise servants). And this know, that if the goodman of the house (minister) had known what hour the thief (Christ, Rev. 3:3: 'If therefore thou shalt NOT watch, I WILL COME ON THEE AS A THIEF') would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. Be ye (the little flock) therefore READY (having enough oil) also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye (the little flock) think not. Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all? And the Lord said, Who then is that FAITHFUL and WISE STEWARD (that is who he was talking about), whom his lord shall make ruler over HIS (the Lord's) HOUSEHOLD, to give them their portion of meat in due season? Blessed is that servant (the WISE STEWARD), whom his lord when he cometh (at the Pre-Trib Rapture) shall find so doing. Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath." In the Preview of the Rapture in Rev. 1:6, we read, "And hath made us kings and priests unto GOD and his Father."
Lu. 12:45-47 changes. The subject is now the foolish servant at the time of the Pre-Trib Rapture. It can't be the Pre-Wrath Rapture, because none are left behind that time. It says, "But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder (lit., cut him off), and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes."
> > the house as the literal house of the goodman, the foolish virgin left behind.
The first Rapture is not until the cutting off of the foolish virgins in v. 46. Agape
If the second coming were 2015, that would be getting pretty far out for the length of a generation. Its length is probably 40 years, but I have seen 47, 48 and 52 years also quoted by respectable sources. 2015 would be (2014-1967) or 47 years for a generation, but as you mention, 2015 falls out due to not being a leap year. The next leap year following a 2300 day interval would probably be greater than a reasonable estimate of a generation...
Here is 10-13 in the Complete Jewish Bible: "My darling speaks; he is saying to me, 'Get up, my love! My beauty (the Bride of the Son of David)! COME AWAY! For you see that the winter has passed, the rain is finished and gone, the flowers are appearing in the countryside, the time has come for [the birds] to sing, and the cooing of doves can be heard in the land (Israel). The fig trees are forming their unripe figs, and the grapevines in bloom give out their perfume. Get up, my love, my beauty! COME AWAY!"
I am thinking there may be a connection between this passage and I Thessalonians 4:13-18 in the B'rit Hadashah revealing the time of the Lord's coming to take the Bride of Yeshua, the Son of David, away from Earth before the Seventieth Week of Daniel (Dan. 9:27) begins. I Thess. 4:13-18 says, "Now, brothers, we want you to know the truth about those who have died; otherwise, you might become sad the way other people do who have nothing to hope for. For since we believe that Yeshua died and rose again, we also believe that in the same way God, through Yeshua, will take with him those who have died. When we say this, we base it on the Lord's own word: we who remain alive when the Lord comes will certainly not take precedence over those who have died. For one of the ruling angels, and with God's shofar; those who died united with the Messiah will be the first to rise; then we who are left still alive will be CAUGHT UP WITH THEM IN THE CLOUDS TO MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR; and thus we will always be with the Lord. So encourage each other with these words."
Mishlei (Proverbs) 30:4 says, "Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Who has cupped the wind in the palms of his hands? Who has wrapped up the waters in his cloak? Who established all the ends of the earth? What is his name (YHVH), and WHAT IS HIS SON'S NAME (YHVH of hosts, the Redeemer, Yeshua)? Surely you know!"
This "son" is meant to reign the world from Israel before long. Tehillim (Psalms) 2:6-8 says, "'I myself have installed my king on Tziyon, my holy mountain.' 'I will proclaim the decree: ADONAI (lit., YHVH) said to me, 'YOU ARE MY SON; today I became your father. Ask of me, and I will make the nations your inheritance; the whole wide world will be your possession."
Yesha'yahu (Isaiah) 44:6 says, "Thus says ADONAI (lit., YHVH), Isra'el's King AND Redeemer, ADONAI-Tzva'ot (YHVH of hosts): 'I am the first (YHVH, Israel's King), AND I am the last (the Redeemer, YHVH of hosts); besides me there is no God." The "last" is Yeshua, both the Son of YHVH and the Son of David, who came as the Redeemer the first time and will come as King the second time. His kingdom is near, and it will have no end.
2 Corinthians 5:17-21 says, "if anyone is united with the Messiah, he is a new creation--the old has passed; look, what has come is fresh and new! And it is all from God, who through the Messiah has reconciled us to HIMSELF and has given us the work of that reconciliation. Therefore we are ambassadors of the Messiah; in effect, God is making his appeal through us. What we do is appeal on behalf of the Messiah, 'Be reconciled to God! God made this sinless man be a sin offering on our behalf, so that in union with him we might fully share in God's righteousness.'"
Not knowing but a little about Hebrew and nothing about Arabic on my own, the star meanings I have listed are not my own. They are culled from 3 books, "The Zodiac Conspiracy," by F. Chris Patrick, "The Gospel in the Stars," by Joseph A. Seiss," and "The Witness in the Stars," by Bullinger.
I do have Strong's Concordance and Gesenius' Lexicon, so can look up meanings of words that appear in the Tanakh, but I have not done so in connection with the meanings of stars.
I did study Latin. Maybe I can help a bit there. Terra is earth, as in terra firma, solid earth. Bellum is war.
I would certainly appreciate any information about Shavuot and your giving me the correct meanings of any star names found in the Zodiac and its Decans. I am glad to know and will change anything that is not correct. Please be specific, so I can make the changes accordingly. Also, if you have any additions to what I have listed, I would love to hear them. You have such an advantage over me since you know the languages first hand. Shalom
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