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WT Point "D" ~ No Personal Voice |
"While some texts refer to the spirit as
'witnessing,' 'speaking,' 'saying' things,
other texts make clear that
IT
spoke through persons, having NO PERSONAL VOICE OF ITS OWN."
[Insight p.1020, & Aid
p.1543]
D1 - It could be said that Jehovah has "no personal voice" (Mt.1:22; 2:15; Lk.1:70). But that isn't the full story. |
D2 - Demon pneuma spirits speak through humans (Mk.1:23-25). Does that mean they have "no personal voice"? |
D3 - Demon pneuma spirits speak directly (Mk.1:26; Lk.4:33; Acts 19:15). |
D4 - The Holy Spirit chose to speak through HUMANS (Mk.13:11; Lk.12:12; Acts 21:4,11) - interesting & impressive ! |
D5 - The Holy Spirit chose to speak DIRECTLY (Jn.16:13-15; Acts 8:29; 10:19,20; 11:12; 13:2; 20:23) - awesome !! |
D6 - The Holy Spirit
chose to speak through SCRIPTURE - double & triple awesomeness !!! (compare Mk.12:36 with Ps.110:1; ~ Acts 1:16-20 with Ps.41:9, 69:25, 109:8; ~ Acts 28:25 with Isa.6:9,10; ~ Heb.3:7-11 with Ps.95:7-11; ~ Heb.10:15-17 with Jer.31:33,34) "Thus THE Spirit THE Holy makes it plain" (Heb.9:8) that HE is Scripture's Author!!! [Click here --> The Holy Spirit SPEAKS through Humans, Scripture, & Directly ] |
D7 - Humans can choose to speak through their personal voices, or clothes, or possessions, or actions, or lawyers, or votes, or boycotts, or web-pages, or e-mail, or letters, or signs, or sign or body language, or foreign tongues, or ventriloquist dummies, or poetry, or art, or music, or hobby, or work, or even through SILENCE. [As a general principle, "silence is telling anyway" -- it tells the person's or institution's moral character -- especially if silent about abuse, injustice, or atrocity.] However, an impersonal method of communication does not cancel personality - it enhances IT ! |
D8 - Because of our limitations, Spirit Beings (Jehovah; The Holy Spirit; angels; demons) have fewer options when communicating with humans ! |
RESEARCH about: " THE > SPIRIT -- THE > HOLY (ONE) " | |||||
Is "The Holy Spirit" a
FORCE, or a
Sentient BEING
-- or BOTH ?
The
Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society's
view on "The Holy Spirit" "
The Scriptures
themselves unite to show that WOW !!! ~ IF The Holy Spirit is just a force,
then I (& any truth-seeker) |
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I don't view my work as a THEOLOGICAL
DEBATE. There's no prize for the winner. This research is to help JWs think about their eternal destiny -- it's about you & God, not about me. If WT teaching is wrong, you are picking a fight with the most AWESOME BEING in the universe! The Holy Spirit has emotion (intellect & will) & can be INSULTED & OUTRAGED !!! Heb.10:26-31 warns: For if we practice sin willfully {or stubbornly, or mindlessly, or blindly, or foolishly} after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left, 27 but [there is] a certain fearful expectation of judgment & [there is] a fiery jealousy that is going to consume those in opposition. 28 Any man that has disregarded the law of Moses dies without compassion, upon the testimony of two or three. 29 Of how much more severe a punishment, do YOU think, will the man be counted worthy who has trampled upon the Son of God & who has esteemed as of ordinary value the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, & who has OUTRAGED THE SPIRIT of undeserved kindness with contempt? 30 For we know him that said: "Vengeance is mine; I will recompense"; & again: "Jehovah will judge his people." 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of [the] living God. |
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According to WT
opinion: |
According to Scripture: (Greek allos = another of the same kind -- not different-kind-heteros). |
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Therefore:
In other words, The Trinity is
alive & well. |
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Because of deliberate, consistent, repeated,
systematic emphasis, programming & reinforcement (a.k.a. re-education, conditioning, mind control, thought reform, brain washing), JWs automatically equate & substitute the Bible expression "The Holy Spirit" with the WT's phrase "Active Force", even though the "Active Force" phrase is a MISTRANSLATION & found only ONCE in their own Bible!!! See the NWT at Gen.1:2.
Click here
for more detail, & the
WT's 28 Meanings /
Senses / Interpretation-opinions for "ruach"
& "pneuma" ( spirit
). The Awesome PERSON &
the awesome POWER of The Holy Spirit
(throughout Scripture) The GIVER & the
GIFT -- in Acts 2:4 for example: |
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WT Basis for "FORCE" Concept |
My Response |
Scripture Basis for "PERSON" Concept |
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A | Absent Greek Definite Article 'the' | Fact, BUT... | A1 | Comparison Chart: - DEMON pneuma (spirit) | |
A2 | Demon-Pneuma-Spirits are Sentient Beings | ||||
A3 | ABSENT Greek 'the' = Awesome POWER | ||||
A4 | PRESENT Greek 'the' = Awesome PERSON | ||||
B | Pneuma = Neuter Gender noun | Fact, BUT... | B1 | Greek Nouns & Pronouns prove Awesome Person | |
C | holy spirit Associated with Impersonal Things | Fact, BUT... | C1 | EMOTION = Personality | |
C2 | INTELLECT = Personality | ||||
C3 | WILL = Personality | ||||
D | The Holy Spirit has NO Personal Voice | F A L S E | D1 | SPEAKS DIRECTLY & via Humans & Scripture | |
E | The Holy Spirit has NO Personal Name |
Unknown, but so what? |
E1 | Names / Titles of The Holy Spirit | |
E2 | Testimony of Jesus (GOD-THE-WORD) | ||||
F | A 'Person' only because of Personification |
WT's FAULTY conclusion CONTRADICTS a host of "inconvenient" Scriptures |
F1 | Testimony of the Whole NT | |
F2 | Comparison Chart: - PARACLETE (Advocate) | ||||
F3 | Awesome Scriptural Warnings | ||||
F4 | Greek Facts / Scholarship | ||||
F5 | Does the WT Misquote Scholars ? | ||||
F6 | Convincing Evidence (& "Michael") | ||||
Click here for
Kingdom Interlinear
~ Definite Article chart to see
the various spellings of the neuter gender "the".
Click here to
Search a
Greek Interlinear NT
Click here to
Search a Greek NT. ~ Enter "pneuma"
beside "Search" & click "GO" (top right). |
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