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Before 1989?

Ed from the Factory mailing list wrote a very interesting message on 30 Jan 2003, answering a question of mine about a possible even earlier incarnation of the Ceremony mailing list and FTP sites in the mid-80s:

In 1986 I went to work for one of the largest computer companies in the world. Between then and 1988 was on a New Order/JD mailing list - I can't recall which one but you may have mentioned it already. I typed in the lyrics at that time. We had a bunch of internal "newsgroups" related to music and they appeared on there too - however I don't have an archive of that stuff.

So, though for now we don't have any names, years, URLs, etc., there's actually a good chance that there was something before 1989.

1989

CEREMONY MAILING LISTS
http://monkey.org/~laps/ceremony/ - Warren Lapham (since 1996) - USA - Witth digests, archives (from 1989) and an off topic mailing list. Used to have FTP sites with files on the hosts (uchicago.edu, niagara.edu and iastate.edu) of the previous owners (Bob Kusumoto, Matt, Richard Kernin) in the early years.

1990

SONIC INTERZONE
(+2001) - - Ken Chasse - - This was a DOS BBS on FidoNet with some files on Joy Division. Now offline.

1991

NEW ORDER DISCOGRAPHY ON FTP
(+2001) - ftp://vacs.uwp.wisc.edu - - USA - Now offline.

1992

ATMOSPHERE ML
(+1996) - - Richard Kernin - USA - A mailing list dedicated to Joy Division on the niagara.edu server (with Ceremony and Factory, which was about the label of course). Now offline.
ATROCITY EXHIBITION
(+2002) - http://www.fys.uio.no/~bor/joydiv.html - Bernt Ronstad, Dave Farquhar - Norway, USA - Created as an ASCII file in 1992 named joy.division, converted into a site in 1995, moved to USA in 1996 at this URL: http://www.cclabs.missouri.edu/~c620608/JoyDiv/ mantained by Dave Farquhar. The original URL still worked, but both are now offline. There's a text file from 1996 archived on Retro. The Norwegian site is archived here.
ELECTRONIC DISCOGRAPHY
(+2002) http://www.niagara.edu/~rpk/Electronic/electronic - Richard Kernin, Dennis Remmer - USA, Australia - A text file. Now offline, but there's a version from 1995 archived on Retro.
JOY DIVISION DISCOGRAPHY
(+2002) ftp://frontios.niagara.edu/pub/Factory/Joy_Division/text/discography - Richard Kernin, Dennis Remmer - USA, Australia - An ASCII file on FTP. Now offline.
NEW ORDER DISCOGRAPHY
http://www.niagara.edu/neworder / http://www.niagara.edu/New_Order - Torbjorn Ivarsson, Richard Kernin - USA - There's a version not being updated here: http://staff.niagara.edu/rpk2/New_Order. Started as a text file (written with Dennis Remmer) on FTP. The version 1.0, posted on UseNet newsgroups in September 1992, is archived on Retro.
REVENGE DISCOGRAPHY
http://staff.niagara.edu/rpk2/Revenge/ - Torbjorn Ivarsson, Richard Kernin - USA - Started as an ASCII file as well.
THE OTHER TWO DISCOGRAPHY
(+2002) ftp://frontios.niagara.edu/pub/Factory/The_Other_Two/text/discography - Richard Kernin, Dennis Remmer - USA, Australia - An ASCII file on FTP. Now offline.

1993

A NEW ORDER WEB PAGE
http://geocities.datacellar.net/james_shum/NewOrder/ - James Shum - Canada - Part of his site James' World: http://geocities.datacellar.net/james_shum/.
REPUBLIC LYRICS
(+2001) - ftp://ftp.uwp.edu - David Lebel - Canada - Now offline.

1994

BIZARRE SUB TRIANGLE
(+2002) - - Sebastien Boisvert - Canada - A BBS fan area on WWIVnet.
CEREMONY WWW SITE
(+2002) - http://slashmc.rice.edu/ceremony/ceremony.html - Colin Law - USA - Now offline. Archived here.
ELECTRONIC MAILING LIST
- - Rage - South Africa - electronic@rkw-lan.cs.up.ac.za is (or was) the E Mail address.

1995

ALT.MUSIC.JOYDIVISION
alt.music.joydivision - - - The UseNet newsgroup.
ALT.MUSIC.NEW-ORDER
alt.music.new-order - - - The UseNet newsgroup.
JOY DIVISION WARNER HOME PAGE
(+2001) - http://www.wbr.com/joydivision/index.html - - USA - A site to promote the release of Permanent, featuring also a biography. Now offline. Archived here.

1996

CYBERAX'S NEW ORDER WEB PAGE
http://dnausers.d-n-a.net/dnetZPMY/neworder/index.htm - Andi Kane - UK - Part of Cyberax ( http://dnausers.d-n-a.net/dnetZPMY/, a site about music and entertainment.
ELECTRONIC WARNER HOME PAGE
(+1999) - http://www.wbr.com/electronic - - US - The official Warner Brothers Records site at the time of Raise The Pressure. Now offline.
FAQ 96 - The New Order FAQ
(+2001) - http://www.ausoug.org/working/dennis/factory/faq96.html - Dennis Remmer, Richard Kermin, Richardd Rackham - USA - A site with frequently asked questions about New Order.
JOY DIVISION SHADOWPLAY
http://www.lwtua.free-online.co.uk/shadowplay/joyd.html - Chris Warren - UK - .
NEW ORDER AND JOY DIVISION PORTFOLIO
(+2003) - http://www.ideacom.co.uk/portfolio/neworder/newordera.html - - - Now offline.
NEWORDERONLINE.COM
http://www.neworderonline.com - Nicolas Le Blanc, Sebastien Boisvert - Canada - With Fanclub and Forum. Formerly known as Temptation.
NEW ORDER PAGE
(+2003) http://www.ee.cornell.edu/~fldv/music/NO/NOmain.htm - Fernando Lopez De Victoria - USA - Part of his personal site Fernando's Page ( http://www.ee.cornell.edu/~fldv/ ) which included a Joy Division Page: http://www.ee.cornell.edu/~fldv/music/JD/JDmain.htm. Now they're offline, but the whole Fernando's site is archived here.
PROCESSION
http://www.mindspring.com/~jcabarcos/neworder.html - ZMan - USA - Formerly known as "Z Man Is Mr. Disco".
TRANSMISSION
(+1997) - - Fernando Lopez De Victoria- USA - A mailing list dedicated to Joy Division that replaced Atmosphere.

1997

ALLY'S MONACO WEBPAGE
(+2000) - http://ajm.simplenet.com/monaco/ - Alistair Murray - England - Offline now. Also known as Music 4 Pleasure with the URL www.joydivision.net. The webmaster will create the official Monaco site.
ALT.MUSIC.MONACO
alt.music.monaco - - - The UseNet newsgroup.
COLONY
(+1998) - http://www.medeval2.u-net.com/colony/home.htm - Buchanga - - Pages about Joy Division and New Order, but also Kraftwerk and Drum'n'Bass.
JD LIST
http://www.lsoft.com/scripts/wl.exe?SL1=JD&&H=LISTSERV.CC.KULEUVEN.AC.BE - - Belgium - The Joy Division mailing list that replaced Transmission.
JEFF'S JOY DIVISION PAGE
http://geocities.datacellar.net/TheTropics/5418/homepg9.html - Jeff - China - Part of the personal site Jeff's World.
MONACO POLYDOR HOME PAGE
(+2002) - http://www.polydor.com/polydor/artists/monaco/ - - - The site of the label. Now offline. -
MUSIC FOR PLEASURE
(+2001) - http://www.gate.net/~harri/index.htm / http://www.joydivision.net - - - Now offline.
THE OTHER TWO HOMEPAGE
(+2002) - http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/usr/cb4n/othertwo.html - Colin Brodsky - USA - Now offline.
THE POP GROUP WITH A DARK PAST
(+2000) - http://welcome.to/neworder / www.neworder-net.com - Antoine Barbet, David Stephenson - France - Offline. Now there's a funny trace here: http://anthonyhopkins.investe.net/default.htm.
WATER RAT'S NEW ORDER CENTRE
http://www.waterrat.com/neworder.htm - Water Rat - USA - With Message Area.
Z NEW ORDER COLLECTION
http://listen.to/newordercollection - - - A site apparently under construction, it should list 240 New Order items.

1998

HERE ARE THE YOUNG MEN
http://www.magnix.demon.nl/jd.htm - Ger Potze - Holland - An extensive Joy Division discography, part of a personal site.
IN A LONELY PLACE
http://geocities.datacellar.net/Paris/Arc/8219/index2.html - Neko - - This site also includes a section called Movement (Expressions Of The Music)
JOY DIVISION BOOTLEGS
http://www.joydivisionbootlegs.com / http://members.aol.com/lwtua/joydiv.htm - Marko, Erik, Oyvind - UK, Norway - Also known as Shadow Factory.
RONAN PPO 98
http://www.docesequitandas.com.br/homes/souza/no.html - Ronan - Brasil - A page on New Order from a personal site in Portuguese ( http://www.docesequitandas.com.br/homes/souza/ronan.html) : PPO means "official personal page".
TEMPTATION (MEAN FIDDLER)
(+2001) - http://www.mf-temptation.co.uk/ - - England - This site was opened from Mean Fiddler to promote the concert New Order played for 1999 New Years'Eve. Now offline. -
TRUE FAITH
(+2001) - http://surf.to/neworder / http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/bernard5/index.htm / http://www.truefaith.cjb.net - Henke - Holland - Formerly known as 586.
WORLD IN MOTION
http://www.worldinmotion.net - David Sultan - USA - With Forum.

1999

JOY DIVISION: DIGITAL VIDEO
http://www.illuma.net/joydivision/default.htm - - USA - A site dedicated to Here Are The Young Men.
JOY DIVISION (GRAVE OF LOVE)
http://sites.uol.com.br/egrec/joy2.html - Annabel Lee - Brasil - A site in Portuguese, part of a wider gothic site on music, poetry etc., Grave Of Love: http://sites.uol.com.br/egrec/.
NEW ORDER DOT NET
http://www.new-order.net - - - .
NEW ORDER ON ABOUT.COM
http://80music.about.com/library/weekly/aa022899.htm - - USA - A page on the 80s music section, with some links.
NEW ORDER JOHN
(+2003) - http://www.xmission.com/~johnm/neworder/ - John - Now offline.
THE HISTORY OF ROCK MUSIC: NEW ORDER
http://www.scaruffi.com/vol4/neworder.html - Piero Scaruffi - Italy - A page (there's also one for Joy Division) of a site dedicated to the history of music in Italian language, itself part of a large personal site ( http://www.scaruffi.com , in English), made by a guy who started to distribute his E Zine through the Internet via E mail in 1985.
TWISTED TENDERNESS (ELECTRONIC)
(+2001) - http://www.electronic-net.com - - England - Official Electronic Parlophone label site. Now offline.

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