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Frequently Asked Questions

S-Video (PSX) + T.V Mini-FAQ 1.1
by Terry Lin
{tlin@servtech.com}

1. What is S-Video?
2. What are other options besides S-Video?
3. Is S-Video THAT much better than Composite?
4. What do I need to get S-Video working?
5. Where does the S-Video cable plug in to?
6. Why can't I use a generic S-video cable if I already have one?
7. So now I've got S-Video... I don't see much of a difference. Why?
8. Why does S-Video look better? (long and technical)
9. What about RGB?
10. What Television Sets with S-Video do you recommend?
 

 

1. What is S-Video? (to top)

Short for Super Video, S-Video is one of the high quality methods of transmitting a television signal from a device such as a TV, VCR or Camcorder. It separates the color information (Chrominance) from the brightness (Luminance), which prevents nasty things like color bleeding and dot crawl, and helps increase clarity and sharpness. You can greatly improve the image quality of the image by simply converting to S-Video.

S-Video is a higher quality method for delivering luminance and chrominance signals. The quality is improved by eliminating the need for the filtering processes that degrade video output. The method is simple - don't combine the signals in the first place. If the signals are always separate, never combined, then no filtration is required. The resulting image, captured in the computer's memory, is a more precise representation of the image originally captured by the camera or recorded by the VCR. There is only one significant disadvantage to S-Video - cost. S-Video equipment is generally more expensive than composite video equipment. Another disadvantage is that S-Video is not a broadcast standard. Video can only be moved through interconnecting cables.

2. What are other options besides S-Video? (to top)

   A. Composite (most common)
By default, most electronic devices that hook up to your television send a "Composite" Signal. This is by far the most common of all 4 outputs. The cable has 3 jacks: yellow,white,and red. One jack sends the audio (left), the second the stereo (right), and the third the video, respectively. The picture quality is decent but pales in comparison to S-Video or RGB. The
US PSX only comes with a Composite Cable.

   B. R/F lead
R/F is the worst you can get in terms of picture quality. It hooks up to your cable, and the picture sucks.

   C. RGB
RGB is the absolute best in picture quality. Better than S-Video. The reason why RGB looks so great is because there is no additional decoding involved by the monitor. (The PSX inherently uses an RGB color system)

3. Is S-Video THAT much better than Composite? (to top)

In a word, YES! The image is at least twice as sharp, and the color definition is far far superior. Because of this the image looks a lot "cleaner". Many fine graphical details in games only become easily visible with S-Video (some of which you may not want, more on that later).

4. What do I need to get S-Video working? (to top)

   The Televsion
First and foremost, you must have a T.V. that has an S-Video Input Jack. Most newer/higher end T.V.'s have such an S-Video input. Look in the back of your T.V. If you see anything with the words "S-Video" on it, you're in business. If not, then you'll need to buy a T.V. that has an S-Video Input Jack. See question #11 for some recommendations.

   The Cable
So now that you know your T.V. can accept S-Video input, you must buy the cable for your PlayStation. This cable is NOT included with your PSX. Don't go looking in your PSX box for some other cable that you've missed, it's not there. This cable is manufactured and made by Sony, and is an "official" PSX accessory, so it shares the same greyish look as the rest of
your PSX stuff.

5. Where does the S-Video cable plug in to? (to top)

The Multi-A/V Output on the back of the card or tv. BTW I recommend NOT using the two Audio jacks from the "integrated" S-Video cable. Instead, take your old composite cable, ONLY plug in the two Audio cables (yellow and red) into the old Composite Audio Out ports on the tv, and then hook it up to the Audio Input jacks in the back of your capture card. Sort of like using the integrated S-Video cable only for video and the composite cable only for audio. Makes a minor improvement in audio quality, because it's not all packed into one cable at the beginning.

6. Why can't I use a generic S-Video cable if I already have one? (to top)

Because thanks to Sony there isn't a "standard" S-Video output port on the PSX. There is only a Multi A/V output (and of course the 3 jacks for Composite). Thus you cannot buy regular S-Video cables because only Sony knows how to make cables that can plug into the Multi A/V Output. That is why you have to fork over the exorbant US$30 for the official PSX S-Video cable, although truthfully you are getting your money's worth because it is a good quality S-Video cable. Crappy S-Video cables that sell for US$2 at Radio Shack do not provide the shielding requried to maintain strong colors and you
get Chromo and Luma crosstalk (which defeats the purpose of using S-Video in the first place).

However, a properly shielded S-Video cable won't run you US$30 either, but if you think it's worth it to hack your own dedicated S-Video port and save $10 or so, be my guest. It involves opening the PSX and buying some electronic parts at Radio Shack and some good electronic skills. It would look pretty ugly :) And the results might not be as good.

7. So now I've got S-Video... I don't see much of a difference. Why? (to top)

Well, if you can't, then you should take a look at what it USED to look like, with Composite. The moment I first saw my PSX with S-Video I was astonished at how clear and sharp the picture was, WITHOUT comparing. I could easily distinguish individual pixels.

8. Why does S-Video look better? (long and technical) (to top)

First, S-Video is "essentially" the same as Chroma & Luma, Brightness & Color, or y/c. They all mean the same thing, in a vague sort of way. Don't get confused here.

A Television set needs a signal in the form of brightness & color, or Chroma & Luma, to display a picture.

We all know that to obtain the best quality in video or audio, you want to keep encoding/decoding to a minimum and retain the original signal as much as possible without modification.

The PSX works with RGB. So do most things with computer graphics. All the images that the PSX works with are in RGB format. I have just told you that the T.V. does not accept an RGB signal (see #10 for exceptions), so obviously at the very least some ENCODING (or converting, whatever suits you best) is required, in order to display those RGB images on a T.V.

When you use a composite hookup, the PSX has to encode the RGB image into a single signal. That signal is sent to the Television, where a device called a COMB FILTER in the TV separates the composite signal into Chroma & Luma.
Because there is "separation" AND "encoding" involved, a major loss of reproduction quality is observed.

When you use a S-Video hookup, the PSX has to encode the RGB image into two separate signals, Chroma and Luma. Well gosh darnit, isn't that what the TV needs in the first place? Exactly! The T.V doesn't have to touch the signal at all, it just takes what the PSX sends to it and displays it, because it is in the right format. The only loss in quality comes from the "encoding" of RGB -> y/c, and this results in a minor loss in reproduction quality.

When you use a RGB hookup with an RGB monitor, it is even better. Now the PSX doesn't have to encode anything, it just sends the signal as it is, and you get perfect reproduction quality. The PSX works with RGB, so does the monitor. A perfect combination. But an RGB setup is not easy and you are limited to small monitor sizes.

This is better illustrated with a diagram: (ascii is cheap I know) (to top)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
PSX | Cable | T.V |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------- -----------
---R(ed)-----}|\ | |--chroma--}| |
---G(reen)---}|----composite---}|T.V comb filter| | Picture |
---B(lue)----}|/ | |---luma---}| |
----------------- -----------

S-Video
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
PSX | Cable | T.V |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------- -----------
---R(ed)-----}|------chroma----}| |--chroma--}| |
---G(reen)---}| |T.V comb filter| | Picture |
---B(lue)----}|-------luma-----}| (not used) |---luma---}| |
----------------- -----------

RGB
------------------------------------------------------------
PSX | Cable | Monitor |
------------------------------------------------------------
-----------
---R(ed)-----}|----R(ed)--------------}| |
---G(reen)---}|----G(reen)------------}| Picture |
---B(lue)----}|----B(lue)-------------}| |
-----------

This should illustrate it more clearly. Note how the comb filter is NOT used for S-Video. This means that T.V's with analog comb filters look just as good as those with more expensive digital comb filters (ie Sony XBRs) IF you're using S-Video. However, a T.V. with a digital comb filter will look significantly better if you're using composite. Cable T.V, regular VHS and
Laserdiscs are all inherently composite, which is why savvy videophiles spend the extra US$300 or so on the digital comb filter in their T.V.

(this gets even more complicated... the comb filter in the T.V. does get used even with S-Video, because in the chroma signal are two seaprate signals, i and q, but this is getting very estoric and I believe understanding the general picture is more important than being confused left and right with this tech talk)

(ok, this gets even MORE complicated with those LaserDiscs that have S-Video... if your LaserDisc or VHS machine has S-Video then that means there is a comb filter in your LaserDisc. Whether or not it looks better than regular composite depends on whether the comb filter in the Laserdisc is better than the one in your T.V... remember a comb filter separates a
composite signal into y/c, and a T.V. needs y/c, so this should clear it up)

9. What about RGB? (to top)

People feel that if they're going to spend their time and effort (and some $$$) on improving their picture quality of PSX games, then they should shoot for the highest thing out there: RGB.Well, let me give you some reasons why aiming for RGB is futile and isn't worth it.

    1. No T.V's today have RGB (BNC) inputs.

Yes it's true. Years ago some very high end DirectView and Rear Projection T.V's (r/p's for short) had BNC inputs, but manufacturers realized that this was a waste even on high-end T.V.'s, since less than 1% of the population who bought them were using it. The other 99% would probably want to save the extra cash by dumping the BNC input. And so this is what
happened. Today, only some Front Projectors (f/p's for short) have BNC inputs. The Sony VideoScope VPH-1001Q is one of them, and retails for US$5990. Go to http://www.sel.sony.com, look up any XBR/XBR^2 and discover for yourself which ones have BNC inputs (there are none).

    2. Differences are minor
I have compared SFZ2 on my Sony KV27V20 to SFA2 in the Arcade at SkyGames (local Fairview Mall). All my friends, including myself, believe the SFZ2 at home looks much better, with better color saturation. So in order to see the benefits of RGB, you'd have to have a very good monitor. An old 13" Commodore 1084 RGB monitor might cut it, but umm... 13"?

    3. Display choices are very limited
As already stated, you are limited to either a Front Projector ($5000+), a Commodore monitor (tiny), or an Arcade RGB monitor (hard to get). There are problems with all of them, whether it's a gaping hole in your wallet or having all your friends hunched over by a tiny computer screen, or not being able to use a VCR/LaserDisc with it.

Unless you're extremely rich and the Front Projector is peanuts to you, I'd advise you to stay clear of RGB. It simply isn't worth the money, regardless of what type of display output you choose. And the difference is arguably very minor (you could always buy a better T.V and get better quality with S-Video)

10. What Television Sets with S-Video do you recommend? (to top)

If you do not own a T.V. with S-Video, I can provide you with a basic list of recommendations. I am mostly familiar with Sony's but do know what to avoid with other manufacturers. I read rec.video often, you should too if you're considering buying a T.V. and have a particular question to ask (look for someone named Louis Carliner in that NG, very helpful person).

In general beware of T.V.'s with Scanning Velocity Modulation (T.V manufacturers will advertise this as a feature, but any half-brained videophile will tell you this is something to avoid as it causes significant ghosting). The only things you should be looking for are color temperature settings, and a digital comb filter if you're planning to enjoy composite sources. Otherwise simply avoid SVM and go for one with color temperature settings.

Recommended models:

SONY (1996-1997 models)

KV27V20
This is a good choice for those on a budget (like me). The picture is great, but like most Trinitron's, the reds are very strong. The good thing about this set is that it does not have SVM (Scanning Velocity Modulation), which sacrifices sharpness for brightness. Decent analog comb filter provides good quality composite at this size. The quality of S-Video on this set is just
about the same as any XBR.

KV27V35
If you need PIP and those extra handy-dandy features, you may want this one, but beware that it has SVM and you may experience ghosting. It's been rumored that you can't even turn it off in Service mode, and need a technician to open
your set up to disconnect SVM. Otherwise it's exactly the same as KV27V20 in terms of picture quality.

XBR's (32"+)
At anything above 27" you will probably want a Sony XBR, because with regular T.V. and other composite sources, you will need a digital comb filter to avoid seeing dot crawl at such a size. The 32XBR100 is the ultimate in DirectView. Even if you don't care about composite, big size V-Series often have SVM and cannot be disconnected by the Service mode.

PANASONIC

I've only been hearing good things about the Panasonic GAOO series (CT27XF33 is a good choice), but generally you can only stick with the higher end as they are the ones with S-Video. Cost more than a V-Series but a little less than a XBR, but you get a good digital comb filter. You also get some rudimentary color temperature settings (set it on Warm, that's close to the NTSC standard). Unsure about how to disconnect SVM.

HITACHI

Also high on the recommendation list. I am not too familiar with Hitachi's, but they too have been getting good reports in rec.video.

TOSHIBA

Yet another good contender. However, avoid anything in the 27-32" size, almost all of them have glass comb filters which would make composite rather ugly. Stick with the Cinema series, as most of them have digital comb filters. Toshiba has a nice web site (http://www.toshiba.com/tacp/TV/pull.html), it should be easy to do your own research if you're considering a Toshiba. Very unsure about the ability to disconnect SVM.

Please avoid Mitsubishi (reputation for inadequate power supplies), RCA, Proscan, Magnavox, and mostly anything else not mentioned in this list. If you're buying a T.V now, don't start scrimping. And if you live in Canada, AVOID FUTURE SHOP!

Terry Lin {tlin@servtech.com}
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