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This is a section of the script aired on January 10, 1996 at 9:00 pm by Cable News Network(CNN). Before interviewing Sandra Bullock and Denis Leary, Larry King interviewed White House correspondents Rita Braver(CBS), Wolf Blitzer(CNN) and Brian Williams(NBC) regarding the Whitewater issue in 1996.
LARRY KING: When we come back, Sandra Bullock and Denis Leary, this is Larry King Live, in Washington. Don't go away.
DENIS LEARY: You know what?
SANDRA BULLOCK: Hmm?
DENIS LEARY: The kid was wrong about that dye job.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yeah?
DENIS LEARY: Yeah. I like the color.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Oh. Really?
DENIS LEARY: All three colors.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Oh, I see, so now that I am lying here half naked, it's not so, what did you call it weird? Is that what you called it, earlier?
LARRY KING: So what do you get when you pair the latest sweetheart of American cinema, with an in your face comedian? The new romantic comedy Two if by Sea out in theaters on Friday from Warner Brothers. Sandra Bullock and Denis Leary who star in the Morgan Creek Production braved the blizzard to join us from New York.
Denis is this your project? I mean, you wrote this, right?
DENIS LEARY (ACTOR, COMEDIAN): I co-wrote it with a friend of mine, an old friend of mine named Mike Armstrong and the story was written by my wife, myself and Mike. So-
LARRY KING: Okay, I'm hearing- I hope the audience isn't hearing it, but it sounds like you are in some vast echo chamber.
DENIS LEARY: We are.
SANDRA BULLOCK (ACTRESS): We are.
LARRY KING: You feel it too? Oh, you are in an echo chamber.
DENIS LEARY: We are in an echo chamber.
LARRY KING: Now, you're not. Sandra, how did they get you for this role?
SANDRA BULLOCK: Well, do you want the story that is the truth, or do you want the story that Denis always tells? If you want-
LARRY KING: Let's try truth tonight.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Okay, there we go. About two years ago, before the Speed explosion, there was a script that I heard was written by Denis and we had already worked together once. And I read it and I fell in love with it, and it was something that I've always wanted to do. So I basically hunted him down like the wild animal that he was-
DENIS LEARY: Not true.
SANDRA BULLOCK: And then-
DENIS LEARY: She's lying, Larry.
SANDRA BULLOCK: No, Larry, I'm not lying.
LARRY KING: That's not the way it happened?
SANDRA BULLOCK: No, it was exactly the way that happened. But it was great, because Denis took a huge chance and gave it to me before Steve, and while the studio was saying, you know, there are other people who would be better, Denis said, 'Well, I'd like Sandy.' And one week later, Speed came out and I was perfect for it.
LARRY KING: Both of you have done some terrific things, obviously Speed. Denis, I've told you I think The Ref is one of the funniest movies every made.
DENIS LEARY: Thanks, Larry.
LARRY KING: Is this one, Two if by Sea sort of like an updated Bickersons?
DENIS LEARY: Well, I mean, it's about - Sandra and I play a couple who have been living together for seven years and my character Frank, like many guys, I am not going to say all guys, but like many guys, is starting to take his girlfriend for granted and she wants more of a commitment from him and he's not, you know, ready and willing to give it up right now. And so-
LARRY KING: So they fight a lot.
DENIS LEARY: Yeah, we fight a lot. One of the things that Mike and I tried to do when we were writing the script, was to recreate the pitch of some of the arguments we'd been in with ex-girlfriends. And who had broken up with us because all we did was watch TV and sit around in our underwear and you know drink beer. So that's part of the, I think a lot of couples will identify with the ridiculous arguments that Sandy than I have, when it's over.
LARRY KING: And the story line is what? There is a caper here, Sandra, a robber, or something is going on?
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yeah, the backdrop is pretty much the last job that Denis' character is going to pull off, and I've gone along just to sort of make sure that he keeps his promise that he won't do this again, but-
LARRY KING: He's a thief?
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yeah, not a good one. But he is a thief.
DENIS LEARY: I'm a bad thief.
SANDRA BULLOCK: He's a bad thief. And we get there and the job sort of goes awry because he thinks that since our relationship isn't doing too well, the smart thing would be to steal the painting before he's supposed to steal it and make a weekend out of it, you know, for our relationship, to help things, which doesn't really work.
LARRY KING: So conflict is at the theme here.
SANDRA BULLOCK: All throughout the film, from beginning to end, yes.
LARRY KING: When you are doing a comedy and it's really funny and everyone knows that Denis Leary is really funny-
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yeah.
LARRY KING: -is it hard Sandra, not to laugh?
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yes, and we did it anyway. I mean the nice thing about having Denis be sort of the keeper of the egg, was that he wrote it and co-produced it-
DENIS LEARY: Keeper of the egg?
SANDRA BULLOCK: I don't know where that came from, but I figured - I don't know, well, it was the egg, and by the end it was hatched, and it was a chicken, our film is now a chicken. But it was really comfortable for people like myself, who just sort of, you know, like to laugh and sort of go off script a lot of times to do that. You have a tremendous amount of trust in someone that you trust as much as Denis.
DENIS LEARY: Yeah, we did a lot of improvisation, actually in the film.
LARRY KING: You did?
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yeah, a lot of the film ended up being improvisational.
DENIS LEARY: There are a couple of scenes that are just completely improved.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yeah.
LARRY KING: Denis are you a comedian who acts and writes or are you a writer who acts and does comedy, or are you an actor who does the other two?
DENIS LEARY: Wow, I'm confused now, Larry.
LARRY KING: So am I and I asked it.
DENIS LEARY: I'm- I think of myself as a genius quite frankly. No I-
SANDRA BULLOCK: Ha, ha, ha.
DENIS LEARY: -no, I think of myself as an actor, I wouldn't been able to do the acting and the directing and the other stuff unless I had been a successful actor to begin with, so you have to start-
LARRY KING: But you started stand up didn't you?
DENIS LEARY: You know, actually I started in the theatre and I went into standup because I couldn't find a job in the theatre, because I was up in Boston, there weren't that many productions. I was working you know, nine to five jobs, and a good friend of mine - Steve Wright, the comedian, the comedian Steven Wright, he became a comic. And so when I saw him do it, I thought, "Well, maybe I should give this a shot, because you can get some stage time." So I tried it for a few years and it basically took off.
LARRY KING: What made you pick Sandra before she was stardom?
SANDRA BULLOCK: The fact that I begged and begged and begged.
DENIS LEARY: No. We met on Demolition Man a Stallone film. And we hit it off and it was a really big budget film, so there was a lot of waiting around, in between shots. So we really got to know each other and I always in the back of my head was thinking, you know, "Eventually we should do something." Where we play a couple. So Mike and I were writing the film, and when we got done, Sandy liked the script, thank God. And so it makes it that much easier, I think to do a romantic relationship film if you know the other person in advance, you don't have to do that awkward getting to know each other thing.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yeah.
DENIS LEARY: You know?
LARRY KING: Sandra how are you dealing with all of this fame now? Superstardom, you are box office. You are a major attraction, yet we know you as a regular person.
SANDRA BULLOCK: It's a little-
LARRY KING: So how are you dealing with this?
SANDRA BULLOCK: -it's a little frightening. The nice thing about it, or maybe the not so nice thing about it, was, or is that I haven't been around for it? Ever since Speed I've sort of - I've basically been working up to about three weeks ago. I've been not in my home. I've been out of the country, I've been working. So the best thing for me was that I wasn't around when this other- other thing of myself happened. And it's -
LARRY KING: Are you now seeing it, though?
SANDRA BULLOCK: We've seen little bits and pieces, but I tend to you know, stick to the phrase that ignorance is bliss? Because you continue on the way. I mean I am pretty set in my ways and I have a great life and sort of a wall of folk in my life including family and there is no reason why that should change, I mean it's great and it's perfect, so I kind of have that as a buffer and so that is wonderful. And you know, buy back to- to people like Denis, you know is that, the great thing that, the one thing that he never admits, I mean it's nice to have people like him have enough faith in you that you can pull something like this off. And-
LARRY KING: Sure. And he also got lucky didn't he? He cast you and now you are a big star-
DENIS LEARY: I know.
LARRY KING: -and suddenly you- Denis rides your wave Sandra.
DENIS LEARY: Well, when we signed to do the film, it was actually, it was like a week before Speed.
SANDRA BULLOCK: A week before Speed.
DENIS LEARY: So she was still Sandra Bullock, you know-
LARRY KING: Oh, then did you get her cheap, Denis?
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yeah.
DENIS LEARY: I guess we did get you cheap.
LARRY KING: We will be right back with Sandra Bullock and Denis Leary as the fight continues. We will stir something up. The film is Two if by Sea from Warner Brothers. We will include your phone calls, too, don't go away.
SANDRA BULLOCK: So a guy dressed up like a bat, that's okay right? But a guy dressed up like a cat is a fag?
DENIS LEARY: Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's just, he's got the cape and a car. And-
SANDRA BULLOCK: And spends all his time with a teenage boy, talking to him, all right?
LARRY KING: Our guests are Sandra Bullock and Denis Leary, they are both at our studios in New York and they co-star in the new movie Two if by Sea. Can you explain, Sandra, the title?
SANDRA BULLOCK: Oh, good, they've asked me to explain the title. Basically, it's pretty much based on Paul Revere's statement.
LARRY KING: I know that but-
DENIS LEARY: Yeah.
LARRY KING: -how does it fit like the-
DENIS LEARY: It's a metaphor right?
LARRY KING: Yes.
DENIS LEARY: Is it a metaphor or a simile. It's a metaphor-
SANDRA BULLOCK: It's a metaphor. It is.
DENIS LEARY: It's, in other words, Two if by Sea, the two characters, they take a, at one point we take a ferry to a resort island off the coast of the cape, Cape Cod, which is a fictional island, but it's like Martha's Vineyard, so, it's, you know, that's why we used it.
LARRY KING: Was this shot in winter?
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yes.
DENIS LEARY: Actually it was shot in-
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yes, yes, yes.
DENIS LEARY: -in April and May in Nova Scotia, and it actually snowed the first three days while we were shooting the summer picture. It was actually the spring.
LARRY KING: Sandra said yes enough times. Sandra to make one thing you froze.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yes, yeah.
LARRY KING: You did?
DENIS LEARY: Yes.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yes.
DENIS LEARY: We did.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yes. We did. It definitely- the amazing thing about lip gloss is that when it hits temperatures below 32 it tends to freeze, that's what I discovered in Nova Scotia.
LARRY KING: What Denis are the prospects for this film? What are they saying down at the shop? Yeah, those who do the forecasts? Those who say, "This is- " , is this a biggie? What are- what is the read on this?
DENIS LEARY: Well, I- I didn't go to the shop, myself, Larry, but I called the shop.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Because they are fixing my car down at the shop-
DENIS LEARY: Yeah, right, so I went down to see who her car was doing.
LARRY KING: What do the boys at WB say?
DENIS LEARY: They're really - they are excited about. I mean,its hard for us to judge, because we are so close to it. I mean, I saw it - last night we had the world premiere up in Boston-
SANDRA BULLOCK: The world premiere?
DENIS LEARY: And- well, that's what they called it.
LARRY KING: The world premiere.
SANDRA BULLOCK: The world premiere?
DENIS LEARY: And I can't watch it because I am so close to it. But the audience was loving it, they were - they were missing some of the jokes because they were laughing so hard at the joke before, so that's the best sign, I think is- you know-
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yeah, I mean I don't think- I think the nice thing is that- I mean, I, myself, I'm not worried about that. I mean, Denis definitely should be worried about that, because this is his baby that he brought from the ground up-
DENIS LEARY: So, you are putting the onus on me, now.
SANDRA BULLOCK: No, I'm not-
LARRY KING: She's saying that it's all on- do you think, honestly, Sandra, you've been very honest tonight. Is this going to be a hit?
SANDRA BULLOCK: You know what, I am the worst judge of that, because I'm- I'm probably worse than Denis. I have no idea. I mean the only thing that I can ask for, which is the same thing I think Denis asks for is just that the work is honest. I mean, we had a great time together and when you have such a good time, you are always afraid that it's not going to live up to the good time that you had.
LARRY KING: Anthony Hopkins says all that really counts is if you had a good time and you did the best on the work-
SANDRA BULLOCK: Absolutely. Absolutely-
DENIS LEARY: Right.
LARRY KING: -the right either takes care of itself or not.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yeah, I mean it's neither here nor there, whether- I mean for us, you know, at this point-
LARRY KING: Yeah.
SANDRA BULLOCK: -whether it makes a lot of money. It doesn't matter if you are thinking about that, you are thinking about the wrong sort of things.
DENIS LEARY: Yeah, I think this is a great date movie. When people say that they usually mean like you take your, you know your spouse or you know, your boyfriend or your girlfriend you go and it's very lovey-dovey.
LARRY KING: And you laugh.
DENIS LEARY: And this- this is a relationship film in the sense that even if you have a bad relationship you should go to this movie because you will see us argue to the point where it will probably bring you closer together I think.
LARRY KING: Toronto, Canada, let's take some calls for Sandra and Denis, hello?
4th CALLER: Hi, first I'd like - I have a question for Ms. Bullock and first I'd like to say that I've enjoyed your work for a long time and one of my favorite characters that you played was Linda Lou Lyndon in This Thing Called Love.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Thank you.
4th CALLER: My question is this: you seemed to have reached a point in your career where you've joined the ranks of people like Julia Roberts and Demi Moore, where there is a great deal of attention paid to how much money you are making per picture-
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yes.
4th CALLER: -and how much money your movies are grossing at the box office in their opening weekend. Does this concern you and does this new focus on finance will it, or even could it affect your choice of movies or roles in the future?
LARRY KING: Good question.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yeah, that's a great question. Yes, up until- it's something that did bother me a little bit that everyone else's attention was focused on that, because it is one of the farthest things from my mind is- to protect myself what I've just done is to ask those who handle the business, the business side and the monetary side of things not to bring it to the table. If there is something that is presented to me, I want it to just - to just basically be the script and I will make my decision based on that. And whatever is in the pot, is, is what I will take. Because it is the script, and the writing and the character that matters, whether it is a short film which I will be doing in March for nothing, which is only about 30 minutes long, or whether it's something that is very profitable and-
LARRY KING: So your agent can't say to you, "Sandra we've got to do this because it's a blockbuster."
SANDRA BULLOCK: Not at all. They- they don't want to because it would totally go against the grain of what I love. And then I wouldn't be able to do things like Two if by Sea if that's what I based all my choices on. I think if you base your choices on money and the potential success rate of the film, you are doomed. You do it for the love of what you- you want to do. And I think anything else is a big mistake.
LARRY KING: Back with Denis Leary and Sandra Bullock they co-star in Two if by Sea, right after this.
DENIS LEARY: I promise.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Are you going to quit smoking?
DENIS LEARY: Honey, I quit smoking.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Bye bye.
DENIS LEARY: Okay, okay, I will.
SANDRA BULLOCK: You want?
DENIS LEARY: I swear I will quit smoking.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Do you want to die.
DENIS LEARY: Honey, okay, I swear on my mother's eyes that I will do all the things that you just asked me to do.
LARRY KING: We are almost out of time. Sandra your next is John Grisham's Time to Kill.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yes, that's correct.
LARRY KING: That was his first book, wasn't it?
SANDRA BULLOCK: Yes, it was. That was something that was really, really powerful. It was an amazing experience that if I attempted to describe it, I would diminish the power it really has, so I will just be quiet.
LARRY KING: Denis, what is your next?
DENIS LEARY: I have a thing called Wide Awake with Dana Delaney and Rosie O'Donnell. And a thing called Underworld with Joe Montegna.
LARRY KING: I love Joe Montegna. Thank you all very much. We look forward to seeing this. It sounds like a riot.
DENIS LEARY: Thank you, Larry.
SANDRA BULLOCK: Thank you.
LARRY KING: Sandy Bullock and Denis Leary, they co-star in Two if by Sea from Warner Brothers.
Tomorrow night, Mary Fisher talks about her battle against AIDS. And Friday night we're going to talk about all this rash of missing people. An anchor woman, an heiress. That's on Friday night, and Saturday night we will repeat our Year in Review show, in Los Angeles, where we head. This is Larry King Live tonight, in Washington. I don't know where I am.
Good night.
Copyright 1996 Cable News Network, Inc.
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