Babble v1 154

babble-digest Thursday, January 22 1998 Volume 01 : Number 154

In this issue:
Bell Atlantic and ADSL
FontView V1.3
www.toyota.com
Deja Vu?
Re: www.toyota.com
Re: www.toyota.com
Re: Custom Palettes In PS4, wasting time
books for Web designers...
Digital Cameras/panorama software...
RE: Custom Palettes In PS4, wasting time
JavaScript question...
ADMIN: Old Posts
RE: TECH: Best JPEG compression?
Re: Javascript question

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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:55:39 -0500
From: Brian Dame <brian@iweb.net>
Subject: Bell Atlantic and ADSL

Dana Adams wrote:

>Interestingly enough Bell Atlantic (for those in the North East,
>formerly NYNEX) is not embracing xDSL (many flavors) -- Typical,
>everybody else gets to surf on the information superhighway while us
>poor hicks slog through on the information cow path ;)

- --
It looks like you "poor hicks" are in for some relief. I just read this today:

For the full story, go to:
http://www.phillynews.com/inquirer/98/Jan/21/front_page/NET21.htm

Bell Atlantic Corp. yesterday said it was joining the nation's other Baby
Bells and several computer-industry giants to make low-cost,
super-high-speed Internet connections available over home phone lines by
year's end.

"Customers like it very well," said Bell Atlantic spokesman Lawrence Plumb.
He said the company has been testing the service in 300 homes in northern
Virginia since September 1996.

Until yesterday, Bell Atlantic had been riding the fence on a decision to
join four other regional phone companies and GTE in a consortium with Compaq
Computer Corp., Intel Corp. and Microsoft Corp. that plans to announce
standards for DSL sometime during the ComNet trade show next week in Washington.

But Bell Atlantic issued a statement yesterday saying it agreed with the
consortium objectives and was "finalizing our plans to join" before next
week's announcement.

- --
Brian Dame
i n t e r w e b
http://www.iweb.net/~harold/

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 00:11:43 +1100
From: "Yalcin Yilmaz" <yyilmaz@catapult.com.au>
Subject: FontView V1.3

Hi everybody.

The program I wrote to display all system fonts (different sizes, styles,
and other options) and to also print them (all or selected) seems to have
proved useful amongst listees. Thanks for your feedback.

I have received enhancement requests (specifying a specific left margin
when printing) so I went ahead. For those of you who downloaded the
original .zip, you can replace the .exe with this one..

http://www.catapult.com.au/software/fontview.exe (only 24 kb)

If you'd like the whole thing you can grab the new .zip

http://www.catapult.com.au/software/fontview.zip (398 kb)

Other ideas for enhancements? (sorry, no Mac version)

| Yalcin Yilmaz
| Catapult Design House
| yyilmaz@catapult.com.au
| http://www.catapult.com.au

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:38:59 +0800
From: Chris McLay <chris@eycon.com.au>
Subject: www.toyota.com

Hi there,

First up, I have had nothing to do with this site, I just came across it
and was very impressed...

Check it out. It has a nice balance of features, good design, good copy and
good ideas.

It impressed me anyway...

Chris

___________________________________________________________________________

Chris McLay E y c o n S t u d i o
managing director
3b Hubble Street, East Fremantle WA 6158, Australia
Email chris@eycon.com.au Web http://www.eycon.com.au/
Telephone 08 9339 0909 Mobile 041 123 9190 Facsimile 08 9339 0808
___________________________________________________________________________

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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 23:59:18 -0500
From: Porter Glendinning <pglendinning@cen.com>
Subject: Deja Vu?

Is something up with the list server, or are we getting these blasts from
the past for fun?

- - Porter

At 09:38 AM 1/19/98 +0800, Chris McLay wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>First up, I have had nothing to do with this site, I just came across it
>and was very impressed...
[snip]

At 12:11 AM 1/19/98 +1100, Yalcin Yilmaz wrote:
>Hi everybody.
>
>The program I wrote to display all system fonts (different sizes, styles,
>and other options) and to also print them (all or selected) seems to have
>proved useful amongst listees. Thanks for your feedback.
[snip]

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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:24:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Matt Newell <matt@ns.qnis.net>
Subject: Re: www.toyota.com

this is the second time this has been posted.. and your still "dont have
anything to do with the site?"

heh.
yea.
right.

-- jEsTeR

www.sweetillusions.org
== ================================= === ==
jester@sweetillusions.org
== ================================= === ==
whatever is not nailed down is mine;
what i can pry loose, is not nailed down

On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Chris McLay wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> First up, I have had nothing to do with this site, I just came across it
> and was very impressed...
>
> Check it out. It has a nice balance of features, good design, good copy and
> good ideas.
>
> It impressed me anyway...
>
> Chris
>
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________
>
> Chris McLay E y c o n S t u d i o
> managing director
> 3b Hubble Street, East Fremantle WA 6158, Australia
> Email chris@eycon.com.au Web http://www.eycon.com.au/
> Telephone 08 9339 0909 Mobile 041 123 9190 Facsimile 08 9339 0808
> ___________________________________________________________________________
>
>
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:38:30 +0800
From: Chris McLay <chris@eycon.com.au>
Subject: Re: www.toyota.com

>ok
>
>this is the second time this has been posted.. and your still "dont have
>anything to do with the site?"
>
>heh.
>yea.
>right.

Don't get me wrong, I would love Toyota as a client, but it's not my site.
The list serv seems to be repeating mail. My message was not the only one.

Please think...

Chris

___________________________________________________________________________

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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:29:00 EST
From: TheGilster <TheGilster@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Custom Palettes In PS4, wasting time

Matt wrote

>>Have you tried looking at the manual? Or done a search on the subject? Or
>>asked a friend?
>>Or tried using the menus that are located in the program?
>>Sorry if I sound harsh dude, but if wasting time is a concern to you,
>>imagine how the rest of us feel.
Matt, excuse me. If I was wasting your time.....
1)You didn't have to read the message, did you?
2) If time were so precious to you, you didn't have to waste even more time
replying with such a nasty response.

Come on,
Maybe that message seems like a waste of time to you, but thanks to the
wonders of computers you have the right to choose not to read it, especially a
letter with such an exact subject. So please, don't complain to me about your
time, as I don't have much myself.

BTW- I read the manuals and searched the help....but i couldn't get an answer
so i sent a message to this list so I could get help.....

Thanks for your precious time,
Gil Kruger
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 01:10:10 -0500
From: Tari Akpodiete <tari@sympatico.ca>
Subject: books for Web designers...

On my site, the Web Publishing Resource Guide (aka TheWPRG) at

http://members.aol.com/thewprg/

I maintain a list of books specific to Web design, publishing and
development (HTML, Style Sheets, JavaScript, Java, Perl, ActiveX, the
business of Web Design, etc...). This list includes book covers, book
blurbs and my opinions about these books. The direct URL is

http://members.aol.com/thewprg/htm/bksweb.htm

- --
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...Creator of The Web Publishing Resource Guide (aka TheWPRG)...
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 01:18:22 -0500
From: Tari Akpodiete <tari@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Digital Cameras/panorama software...

I have an excellent digital still camera, a Sony Mavica, the MVC-FD7 to
be specific, and I can't say enough good things about it. I did have the
MVC-FD5 first, but the MVC-FD7 had so many more features that I picked
it up.

http://www.mavica.com/
or
http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/consumer/mavica/

and direct URL to specs

http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/consumer/mavica/specifications.html

One of the things I like most about it is that you can shoot on a 3 1/2
inch disk and then just pop it into your PC or Mac. No cables, no fuss,
no muss.

Regarding panoramic software:

PhotoVista lets you create a jpeg "donut" of 12 pictures for a 360
degree panoramic view. Once it is made, it can be a QuickTime VR image
or it can be saved as a PhotoVista file that's 1/3 the size and
downloads in secongs. The 12 pictures can be shot even with a cheapo
camera and stitched together in automatically with one click. Unlike
QTVT, it's editable and cheap - 99 bucks US. They're having a contest,
every 100th right answer wins. You can download a free copy from:

http://www.livepicture.com/photovista26/

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:41:33 +0200
From: Steve Crane <stevec@datapro.co.za>
Subject: RE: Custom Palettes In PS4, wasting time

Matt wrote

>Or asked a friend?

Are we not all friends here at Babble?

Steve Crane (MCSD, SBN2 Member)
E-mail ......... mailto:stevec@datapro.co.za
Web (Company) .. http://www.datapro.co.za
(Personal).. http://home.pix.za/pa/pak00325
ICQ Pager ...... http://wwp.mirabilis.com/4364105

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 01:25:05 -0500
From: Tari Akpodiete <tari@sympatico.ca>
Subject: JavaScript question...

Greetings:

I have a student called James who needs to do something with JavaScript
that is beyond my capabilities. It seemed simple enough until I tried to
figure out how to do it. So far, no one else has been able to figure it
out either, so here goes:

James has a quiz. You answer multiple-choice questions by selecting a
radio button, and then depending on what your answer is, you will get a
score of, say 1 to 4. After you answer, say 10 questions, you will have
a score that could vary between 10 and 40. Depending on what you score,
say 15-18 or 25-28 or 32-35, etc... you will be flipped to a page of
information.

This is a lot like those vocabulary tests in Reader's Digest, or those
relationship question in mags like Cosmopolitan. I looked at a number of
sites on the Net where you might expect to find such quizzes and they
all use Perl. In this case, using Perl is not an option. James needs to
use JavaScript.

Kind Regards.

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 01:50:21 -0500
From: Porter Glendinning <pglendinning@cen.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Old Posts

It seems as if the list server is hosing up for some reason, and sending
duplicates of previous posts. Please check the date of any mail you get
from the list before replying to it.

- - Porter

- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Porter Glendinning pglendinning@cen.com
WWW Developer http://www.serve.com/apg/

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 01:53:11 -0800
From: Christopher <chris@christopher.org>
Subject: RE: TECH: Best JPEG compression?

On Sunday, January 18, 1998 7:51 AM, Caleb Fuller wrote:
> Has anybody tested different JPEG compression (Mac) software?
> I am comparing the JPEGs used on the Landrover.com site with a physically
> similar sized image I am trying to use, and when compressed to get a
similar
> file size (20-30K), my image quality is absolutely #$%^ compared to what
> Adjacency achieved.

This aspect of Adj is one of the few golden nuggets in their book, Creating
Killer Interactive Web Sites (not recommended, btw). Across one of the
pages dealing with some other aspect of web design I could have sworn I
read where Adj has their own custom JPEG compression software. I haven't
been able to find the passage since that fateful reading session, but they
did give one method of nifty JPEG compression techniques:

- feather certain sections of your image which don't need to be detailed
as much as, say, the main object.
- then export as a JPEG....for PCs use, Ulead's software; for macs,
whatever BoxTop calls their app. (Sorry! Can't recall it.)

A cool JPEG compression tool I bought and love is Emblaze's Web Charger.
You select certain area's of your image you want to avoid the dreaded
artifacts common with JPEG compression, but retain that area's detail in
the image. The unselected areas can be compressed at a level adjusted by
sliding scale. Typically, I save at least 2 to 3k per image with Web
Charger - and I have been seen savings of up to 10k out of an image that
was previously 15k (Cha-ching!).
Some side affects: I would use the app more if the program read PhotoShop
files and alpha channels... then I could do some serious batch processing.
Also, it would be really handy if it was a PhotoShop filter instead of a
standalone app.

Hope this helps,
Christopher Schmitt
new media designer
http://www.christopher.org/

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 03:22:00 -0500
From: Porter Glendinning <pglendinning@cen.com>
Subject: Re: Javascript question

At 10:20 AM 1/21/98 +0100, Miguel Fuentes García wrote:
[snip]
>I have 50 links in a non-frame page. I need to click in any of them, and
>open a page with 2 frames, one for a menu buttom, one for the content.
>
>The menu page is always the same, the content page refers to the
>selected (of the 50 links).
>
>I can write 50 frames description and point the link to those pages,
>but what if 500 or 5000?
[snip]

I've posted a way to do this in my Workshop:
http://www.serve.com/apg/workshop/

The way it works is you format the links to the frameset document with the
HREFs of the content documents passed as arguments, something like this:

There is JavaScript in the frameset document that picks these off and loads
the content documents into the appropriate frames.

- - Porter

- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Porter Glendinning pglendinning@cen.com
WWW Developer http://www.serve.com/apg/

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