Babble v1 188

babble-digest Saturday, February 7 1998 Volume 01 : Number 188

In this issue:
Re: IE4 Mac CSS Problems
Re: Paralell sites
Re: Paralell sites

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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 18:27:09 +0000
From: "Kuei-Szu G. Lu" <ksgracelu@bigpic.com>
Subject: Re: IE4 Mac CSS Problems

Hullo Patricia !

In your CSS file, you should specify CLASS and ID by
the symbols "." and "#", respectively. Otherwise
browsers will not recognize the connection, so to
speak. Perhaps it was a problem with my mail program
but I didn't see class as selector indicators (".") in your
original post although i suddenly saw them appear in the
replies .... weird !

Therefore your "first.css" file should read :

BODY {background: red; color: black}
.text { font-family: arial, helvetica;
font-size: 10px;
line-height: 24px}
#big { font-family: arial, helvetica;
font-size: 18px}

and your html doc should read

<div class=text> blah blah blah
<span id=big>bigblah bigblah bigblah</span>
</p>

IE 4 is picky about things like CLASS and
ID. There's the article (this week, actually) in the
webmonkey site about part of this :

http://www.hotwired.com/webmonkey/98/05/index3a.html

Also in your CSS file ("file.css"), you should _not_ specify <HTML>,
<HEAD> tags b/c it is a CSS file and not an HTML file ( see the
specification for CSS 1 in the w3.org site ). The specifications
state that you also should not place <STYLE> tags in the .css file at
all. It's not "correct" otherwise. alright so i'm being picky
following the specs ! :-)

It doesn't confuse some browsers now , then again you never know in
the future ...

>> Also, in Communicator, I'm getting uneven spacing between
>> the lines of text due to the 18px text I want to insert. Is there
>> any way to get around this?

There's the CSS property "line-height" with a percentage
value that works for ALL PC- based CSS-browers, but buggy
in Mac-based CSS-browers.

Here's a great list of CSS 1 with how well they are rendered
on different browers and platforms at this address
( highly recommend it ):

http://style.webreview.com/mastergrid.html

Hope this helps !
Good luck with CSS - tis fun after getting a handle on it.
Cheers
grace
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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 15:24:13 +0800
From: Chris McLay <chris@eycon.com.au>
Subject: Re: Paralell sites

>Check out http://www.levi.com/ and http://www.levistrauss.com/
>
>The first is the "Gen-X," in-your-face version; and the second is the "Good
>evening sir. Could I interest you in a pair of our Chinos?" site.
>
>- Porter

Not to critisise, but to clarify on my last email...

These two sites have very different purposes. From what I've seen,
'levi.com' is a brand site, to sell the brand Levi. It's even targeting
different areas of the world with slightly different strategies to suit
that area.

On the other hand 'levistrauss.com' is a corporate site for the Levi
Strauss Company and as such has a very different role (corp marketing is to
big for here). This site has links to other company brands 'Dockers' and
'Slates'.

These to site have been produced for the same client, but many have even
been produced by different agencies who understand the specifics of each
type/style of marketing. I don't think of these as paralell sites...

Chris

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 15:08:37 +0800
From: Chris McLay <chris@eycon.com.au>
Subject: Re: Paralell sites

>Hey Babblers,
> I am designing a fairly large site for a client who has two distinctly
>different types of customers that might visit. One is corporate and may
>expect a more reserved, clean site graphically. The second is a younger,
>hipper crowd that is used to pretty wild graphics. I am thinking of
>creating two paralell sites that share company logo, layout and some
>text while using different backgrounds and images to create two distinct
>moods. Am I setting myself up for a logistical nightmare as far as site
>updates and keeping images and content straight? Has anyone seen any
>examples of paralell sites out there? Thanks,

I haven't seen anything like that, and it sounds like a nightmare to me. We
did a proposal for a very diverse client several months back, and had
similar problems. We came up with some (IMHO) very cool and clever design
solutions, that met our needs in one site. I would look into the 'design'
of your site in a wider sense (content, expectations, requirements, visuals
etc.) and see if you can come up with a better solution.

Chris

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