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These articles are aranged in chronological order. In other words, the oldest ones are at the beginning and to get to the newest articles you need to go to the bottom of the page.

See Also:
Concert News & Reviews  Writeups on various Mazzy concert gigs.
Album Reviews  About 20 different reviews of Among My Swan and I rank them, so you don't have to waste your time on the bad ones.
Foreign Language   For our german-speaking friends.

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L.A. Confidential
Rolling Stone’s news column - September 2, 1993

The always trippy Mazzy Star previewed material from their forthcoming album, So Tonight That I Might See, at the blues haunt, the Mint. Curiously, vocalist Hope Sandoval admonished the rapt crowed for its applause. “Why are you clapping?” she asked. “You weren’t even listening.”   --David Wild.

Many thanks to Jennifer for contributing and typing this article.

Single of the Moment
The Jesus and Mazzy Chain
Rolling Stone - October 6, 1994

By Matt Hendrickson

If it had been up to William and Jim Reid, the brothers who front the Jesus and Mary Chain, they wouldn't have chosen "Sometimes Always" to be the first single off their new album, Stoned and Dethroned.

"It was a surprise to us that people thought it should be a single, because the demo was so bleak," says William. "Even after we recorded it, it still didn't seem like a single."

"I've given up guessing what could be a single or what couldn't be," says Jim with a sigh. "Whatever song we think will be a big hit, it never is. What we do now is just make the record and listen to other people's opinions."

"Sometimes Always" features the hypnotic voice of Mazzy Star lead singer Hope Sandoval. She's rumored to be the girlfriend of William Reid, to which he curtly replies, "We're just good friends." The song is a gripping tug of war between Sandoval (the jilted girlfriend) and Jim Reid (the repentant boyfriend).

The Reid brothers had been waiting for more than three years to record with Sandoval. "We always really liked her voice," William says. "But we didn't have the song that could work until 'Sometimes Always.'"

"They sent me the song, and I thought it was really good," Sandoval says. "[Mazzy Star] were in London, touring, and I went to their studio and met them for the first time. The recording took two days, and it was really difficult. They produce their own records, so they were really picky, which is totally understandable. The fun part was having wine and talking and laughing."

Originally when we conceived the record, we were going to have many more guests on it," says Jim. "But for various reasons, it didn't work out, so we just asked people we really liked." Former Pogue Shane MacGowan also appears, handling the vocals on the harrowing lament "God Help Me."

Stoned and Dethroned is the Jesus and Mary Chain's sixth release (counting 1988's B-sides compilation, Barbed Wire Kisses). It was originally planned as an all-acoustic album, but the band scrapped the idea after a few months of recording. "Everyone thinks the band is all guitar and feedback," Jim says. "It's quite easy to plug a guitar into a fuzz pedal and make some interesting sounds. We were trying really hard not to use electric guitars, and it got to the point where we said, 'This is silly. Let's just make a record.'"

The band is hitting the road with Mazzy Star this October and is looking forward to a tour more suited to its tastes than its difficult stint on 1992's Lollapalooza tour. "Lollapalooza was a big, big mistake," William says with no hesitation. "Aside from the fact that we hated playing in the daylight, it was supposed to be a meeting place for people who were different. But we felt different from all the people who were supposed to be different. It was like everyone was trying to be a professional freak or weirdo."

"We are freaks and weirdos," Jim stated matter-of-factly. "But we don't make such a big deal about it."

 

Rolling Stone - October 20, 1994
Incense and Insolence
Mazzy Star Carry The Torch For ‘60s Psychedelia
And The Importance Of Being Difficult

By Alec Foege

"It was totally unpleasant for me," says Hope Sandoval, Mazzy star’s laconic lead singer. The dire seriousness with which she makes this confession about her band’s recent appearance on Late Night with Conan O’Brien is at once touching and unintentionally comical. "If you’re nervous in front of 500 people—"

Sandoval chooses her every word with utmost care, as if she were baring her soul, and yet negates each response with a scowl and a sidelong gaze, her dark hair wisping into her eyes. This time even the cool, beret-wearing David Roback, Sandoval’s songwriting partner and the guitarist in the group, appears ruffled and tries to catch his band mate’s eye. "They were nice to us," he says, filling the void with an easy smile. "It wasn’t unpleasant in that way."

After another elliptical lull, Sandoval rejoins the conversation. "They were really nice to us," she says. "I just get nervous and tight. . . . And it’s so bright. . . . .We’re not used to all the bright light."

One hour and two bottles of red wine into a friendly but halting conversation that at moments bears a disconcerting resemblance to the more abstruse exchanges in Waiting for Godot, Sandoval and Roback have made a few salient points: (1): Regardless of the success that has recently befallen the group, Mazzy Star do not relish fan idolatry; (2) Mazzy Star prefer to let the music on So Tonight That I Might See, their second album, speak for itself; (3) Mazzy Star do not enjoy doing interviews; and (4) performing live, particularly performing live on television, has a lot in common with a visit to the dentist’s office.

"For me recording is better," says Sandoval. "Live, I just get really nervous. Once you’re onstage, you’re expected to perform. I don’t do that. I always feel awkward about just standing there and not speaking to the audience. It’s difficult for me."

Despite a public reticence that verges on the bizarre, Mazzy Star have eked out a bona fide hit with "Fade Into You" nearly a year after So Tonight That I Might See was first released. Exposure on MTV’s Buzz Bin and VH-1, as well as Sandoval’s cameo on the Jesus and Mary Chain single "Sometimes Always," recently eased Mazzy Star’s lush, majestic music into the limelight. They were even willing to brave an October appearance in front of an arena-size crowd at Neil Young’s annual Bridge School benefit in San Francisco.

"Things are basically the same," Sandoval says of Mazzy Star’s newfound fame. "We’re just sticking to our ways. Writing the way we’ve always done it. There’s really no need to change."

Rain Parade, an early Roback band, first hit the scene in 1982 as part of a loose aggregate of psychedelic ‘60s-influenced guitar bands in Los Angeles – including the Dream Syndicate, the Bangles, Green on Red and the Three O’Clock –that became known after the fact as the Paisley Underground. The moniker acknowledged the scene’s two main influences – the Velvet Underground and Woodstock-era acid rock. Dark, moody and drenched in guitar feedback, Rain Parade’s music was not merely out of sync with the early-’80s trend toward synthesizer-based New Wave. "They were the trippiest, most hypnotic of all the paisley bands," recalls Steve Wynn, leader of the now-defunct Dream Syndicate. "All the other bands in the scene felt some obligation to rock now and then. But the early Rain Parade played at three speeds: slow, slower and slowest."

Roback left Rain Parade following their first album and formed a quartet called Clay Alison with Kendra Smith, the original; bassist from the Dream Syndicate. That group, which included Mazzy Star drummer Keith Mitchell, mutated into a new band, Opal, whose sound was defined by Roback’s spare, distorted guitar work and Smith’s lyrical voice.

"When I was playing in Opal, we were friends, Hope and I," Roback recalls. "But I don’t think we were really part of the music scene in the way that people may have perceived it at that point. Actually, we were both sort of alienated – that’s what we had in common."

The waifish Sandoval had admired Kendra Smith as a teen-age Dream Syndicate fan growing up in Los Angeles. Not surprisingly, Going Home, a folk duo she formed in 1986 with her friend Sylvia Gomez, soon caught Roback’s attention; he even offered to produce their first album. Although the resulting recording was never released (4AD will finally issue the disc next spring), Roback invited Sandoval to join Opal when Smith left the band midtour. While the new band’s musical precepts remained the same, Sandoval’s kittenish vocals inspired them to collaborate under a new name – Mazzy Star.

Mazzy Star’s debut, She Hangs Brightly (1990), garnered critical acclaim and cultish attention by dosing drug-frazzled indie rock with acoustic guitars and a pedal steel. But within a year of the album’s release, the band’s label, British indie Rough Trade, closed down its stateside operation, leaving the group without an American label. Capitol snapped up the group and in 1992 re-released She Hangs Brightly. The band has mined the same sluggishly resplendent vein ever since.

In concert, Sandoval’s wan countenance and commanding alto are undeniably the center of attention; Roback lurks in the shadows with a virtually anonymous backing band. Although Sandoval and Roback share songwriting duties, the word chemistry overstates their relationship. For one, Sandoval lives in Los Angeles; Roback is based in Berkeley, Calif. She’s moody, and he’s withdrawn. Fortunately their edgy songs often get along fine without them. "For ‘Into Dust,’ David’s guitar part was just so moving," Sandoval says. "We didn’t even stop and write. He just played the guitar part, I sang, we recorded it, and that was it. What you hear on the record is basically the first time we did it."

These days, Mazzy Star sell out every show. But you wouldn’t know it from the crowd reaction at the band’s packed club dates; rock acolytes don’t come much quieter. "They’re understanding that that’s what it takes to get us to stay out there longer than 30 minutes," says Sandoval. "It’s just like anything else: If you were talking to a group of people, and everybody was there to listen to you, it would be rude if five people were having a drink and a loud laugh. Obviously we’re not the Red Hot Chili Peppers." The particularly subdued "Into Dust" is known within the band as the "Shush Song," a reference to the devoted fans who shush the uninitiated whenever it is performed.

William Reid of the Jesus and Mary Chain, the Scottish band that will begin a five-week U.S. tour with Mazzy Star on Oct.10, feels that it’s unfair to expect more than music from musicians. "Some bands – and Mazzy Star and the Jesus and Mary Chain are among them – feel uncomfortable doing all the other stuff: the business and the bull sessions and doing the deals," he says. Reid also defends his California friends; notorious reputation for stalling interviews, admitting, "It’s not the perfect arena to be in if you happen to be a shy person."

Whether Sandoval and Roback’s aloofness is a gambit or a genuine case of the introverted blues (it’s probably a bit of both), there’s no doubt it’s contiguous to the band’s ethereal, swirling music. All that is difficult and apprehensive about the pair in person becomes that which is most splendid in their music. On "Mary of Silence," Sandoval’s echoey voice blends with a repetitive, funeral organ part as Roback’s combustive guitar plashes in the distance. "So Tonight That I Might See," the album’s title track, has all the primal drama of the Doors’ "The End" without its mawkishly serious stance. If music is "cinema of the mind," as Roback likes to say, then Mazzy Star are a beautiful art-house flick dubbed in English, its reels shown out of order.

"I know Dave pretty well, and I don’t think it’s an act in any way," says Steve Wynn. "Sometimes when people demand to do things the way they want to do it, it’s taken as arrogance or snobbishness. It’s really just a matter of wanting to do something the way you hear it in your head." To ensure absolute control, Roback produces all of Mazzy Star’s recordings.

While little else on the charts indicates a groundswell of dirge-like, introspective music, enduring interest in the dour, faceless Pink Floyd suggests that supermarket-aisle recognition is no longer a prerequisite for rock super-stardom. "There’s something nice about being unknown and anonymous," says Roback. "People who are unpopular or aren’t successful are making great music all the time. But it’s also interesting to be able to do our concerts and to realize some of our ideas. So I don’t see success as a negative thing."

 
 
Once again,
kudos to Jennifer. She's the reason you're reading this.
Yep, Jennifer.

Details: December 1994
Lucky Star
by Caren Myers

"Are you in Mazzy Star?"

The chubby girl with purple hair is poised, piece of paper in hand. Hope Sandoval, the singer for Mazzy Star, nods faintly. Pleased, the girl turns eagerly to David Roback, Mazzy Star's guitarist. "And are you in the Jesus and Mary Chain?" There's an embarrassed silence. Ordinarily, the fact that Hope has been dating the Mary Chain's William Reid would be of interest only to those select fans for whom indie music is as glamorous as the cast of Melrose Place. Unfortunately, one of them is here now, looking only slightly crestfallen.

"Will you sign this anyway?" she asks. Hope signs dutifully. That's the first time I've ever been asked for an autograph," she murmurs. "It's like she's controlling you - for ten seconds, she's got you doing what she wants you to do." Mazzy Star don't want to do what people want them to do. It's not that they're so very contrary; they just can't cope. This summer, their languid, country-inflected single "Fade Into You" wafted onto MTV, frail and strangely touching. Next to the usual vein-bulging tales of trauma, David's lonesome slide guitar and Hope's soft, nearly affectless voice sounded pleasingly alien. Now their second album, So Tonight That I Might See, has gone gold. David and Hope find this alarming. "We never thought people would like our music," says David. At all? "Well, we thought maybe a few people would like it." And he means a few. Like five. Preferably very quiet people who lived very far away. And who, if they came to see Mazzy Star play live, wouldn't do anything embarrassing like stare at them.

When Mazzy Star released their first album, 1990's She Hangs Brightly, its shivery collage of slow, sparse blues and sepulchral lyrics retraced a neo-Velvet Underground vein that had been mined before - by Opal (David's previous band), by the Cowboy Junkies, by the entire roster of 4AD. But Mazzy Star's ghostly atmospherics and Hope's sullen-child persona made them moodier pinups than the rest. They found an audience of fans who shrank from alternative music's new macho flourishes.

So Tonight That I Might See is more of the same, only more so: sadder, more distant. "I could feel myself growing colder," whispers Hope on "Into Dust". "I could feel my eyes turning into dust." The record has taken off, maybe because its self-effacing creators don't stamp their own stories all over its lovely, numbing songs. In an age obsessed with messy revelations of inner pain, Mazzy Star's eerie, faintly psychedelic lullabies offer a soothing retreat for those weary of catharsis. Most bands thrive on attention. And if they have to shut themselves away in a studio for a few weeks a year - well, that's the price of fame. For David and Hope - who like to spend their breaks from Mazzy Star making even more music together - releasing records, at the risk of attracting attention, is the price for months undisturbed in the rehearsal room. Ever since Brian Wilson took to his bed in 1973 and didn't leave until 1975, rock recluses have tended to be either Syd Barrett-style drug casualties or anonymous agitpropists like the Residents. J Mascis, Dinosaur Jr's leader, broke the mold: He just didn't like to talk. After J, it was possible to be spectacularly uncommunicative without even being eccentric. Mazzy Star follow in his footsteps. Hope passes every question on to David, and David unfurls a full arsenal of minutes-long silences and vague generalities. Occasionally, for variety, he'll speed things up.

ME: Did you ever...
DAVID: No.

Despite their misgivings, Mazzy Star agree to meet me in a Mexican restaurant in Berkeley, David's neighborhood. They lope in just late enough to be trendy, in matching dark glasses. Hope's family is Mexican-American, but she's too self-conscious about her Spanish ("It's real slangy") to speak to the waiter in anything but English. Hope has always been shy. When she was in the fourth grade, her timidity was so severe that she was put into a special education program. Being with the rowdiest kids in the system didn't help, and she eventually refused to go to school at all. The city had to send a home tutor. David and Hope order Bohemia beers, glance at each other, smile fleetingly. Hope props her chin on her hand and gazes at the other diners. There's a pause. Then David touches her arm affectionately. "What are you thinking about?" he asks. Hope looks at him. "I'll tell you," she says finally, "but I still think it's an invasion of my privacy." She takes a deep breath. "I was just thinking that a lot of people drink beer with their food."

Hope was born twenty-eight years ago in East L.A., the daughter of a butcher. Her parents both had kids from previous marriages, so Hope has five half-sisters, three half-brothers, and one full brother. He's now a punk florist who makes barbed-wire bouquets. Hope met David when she was fourteen, trekking off to see bands with her friend Sylvia Gomez. David grew up in Hollywood with "a few" siblings. His parents "weren't musicians". In the early '80s, he formed the trippy Rain Parade with his brother Steven. Along with the Dream Syndicate, the Three O'Clock, and even briefly the Bangles, they contributed to an L.A. '60s revival that was dubbed the Paisley Underground. Hope and Sylvia hung around the clubs, meeting the musicians and getting smuggled in under bouncer's noses. One time they got in by passing themselves off as go-go dancers for Green on Red. But sometimes they'd get busted for being underage.

Hope still remembers how horrible it felt to stand in the parking lot while the band played inside. Sylvia went to college, and Hope and David started dating. When Opal split, Mazzy Star became Hope and David's project. And somewhere along the line, their romance ended. Which makes me wonder if they feel nostalgic, and whether the dark intimacy of So Tonight That I Might See is about that. I wonder if David is still in love with Hope. I wonder what it's like spending their time together when Hope's got William and David's got his memories. I can guess they're not dying to talk about it. So I ask the simplest question I can think of.

How long did you actually go out?
Hope laughs nervously, glancing at David. David is silent, frowning like he's trying to remember something. Time passes. Finally he thinks of an answer. "A lot of the things we do are very interesting, and I think we're very fortunate to be able to do them," he says. Then he leaves for the bathroom.

Once he's gone, a nervous-looking guy with long hair approaches the table. He's clutching the CD of So Tonight That I Might See.
LONG-HAIRED GUY: Excuse me, but may I swoop down on you with a humble request?
HOPE: Um . . . it depends on what the request is.
LONG-HAIRED GUY: Just some kind words for a frustrated sculptor.

Hope writes him a few kind words ("Hope Sandoval"), shaking her head. "I don't know what's happening here," she says. The sculptor thanks her and bows stiffly.
"Your music has touched me," he says.
"That was nice," Hope says wistfully. "Though sometimes I get really nervous and I don't know how to handle it." She looks genuinely spooked, like she's recalling scenes of Beatlemania-type hysteria. Don't you want to communicate with these people? "Yeah," says David, who has just returned, "but sometimes you write a song for one person, and then everybody else hears it later."
And is that person usually Hope?
David shifts warily in his seat. "I think," he says slowly, "there's a sense of each other's presence often in our work, whether it's directly about one another or not. There's a sense . . . of . . . a presence."
We're all quiet again. Hope and David stare into space, in different directions. There's a tangible feeling of loss - the things that go unsaid still hang between them. And now I think I can see what touched the sculptor.

 

Mesmerizing New Album Coming From Mazzy Star
Hope Sandoval: Only happy when it rains
Addicted to Noise July 21,96

by Michael Goldberg

The new Mazzy Star album, titled Among My Swan, will be released on September 5th. The album, the duo's best yet, is a melancholy walk through an English country side rose garden--or maybe a solitary stroll along a river up in Oregon somewhere. The touching "Flowers In December" features a charming harmonica solo by singer Hope Sandoval, who wrote all of the lyrics with the exception of those for "Rhymes Of An Hour," which were co-written by Sandoval and her partner in crime, guitarist/songwriter Dave Roback, who is responsible for all of the music on the album. Roback also produced the album, with a co-production credit going to Sandoval.

This album is the kind you listen to late at night, when you're feeling as down as can be, and need some music to fit your mood. Guitarist William Reid--yeah, the brilliant noise-meister from The Jesus and Mary Chain--appears on a song called "Take Everything." Other songs on the album: "Disappear," "Cry, Cry," "Still Cold," "All Your Sisters," "I've Been Let Down," "Rose Blood," "Happy," "Umbilical" and "Look On Down From The Bridge." It's too bad that Garbage already wrote a song called "I'm Only Happy When It Rains," cause that one ought to be the theme song for Mazzy Star. While some of Sandoval's melodies make me think that she's listened to Bob Dylan's "Knockin' On Heaven's Door" about 2000 times, her voice and Roback's musical settings for it are strikingly unique. Simply gorgeous in a dark, femme fatale kind of way.

Capitol Records Press Release

Among My Swan, the new Mazzy Star album, is out! It is the third album from the California based band featuring Hope Sandoval and David Roback, and it includes 12 new Sandoval/Roback songs.

Mazzy Star began performing live on the underground music scene in the late 1980's, and released its first album, She Hangs Brightly, in 1990 on the independent label Rough Trade. Despite the critical success of their first album and their rapidly growing cult following, Mazzy Star has remained a somewhat enigmatic presence on the contemporary music scene. The 1993 release of their second album So Tonight That I Might See, on Capitol Records, further reflected their diverse and experimental musical styles, both electric and acoustic.

Since the release of their second album, Mazzy Star has been performing live in Europe and North America, as well as working in the recording studio and appearing on movie soundtracks. The new album, Among My Swan, was recorded in California and London, and will include the new single "Flowers in December."
[Capitol - online]

 

Ray Gun November 1996
Mazzy Star in "singer speaks" shock.

Rock writer rushed to emergency room. "Couldn't get her to shut up," mumbles an anaesthetized Jim Greer as his gurney trundles headlong through the hospital doors.

by Jim Greer

For the past few days I've been going over a stack of Mazzy Star press clippings and have talked to a number of people who've previously interviewed the duo; the unifying thread of both the articles and the conversations, making allowances for differences of perspective and personality, seems to be GET OUT OF HERE FAST! THIS INTERVIEW WILL BE A DISASTER! But we at RayGun will not be so easily cowed.

In the past, it seems, the pair have given such reluctant and unforthcoming interviews that some writers have been reduced to printing an actual count of the seconds between question and reply - and when the reply does come, it tends to be along the lines of "Um, I don't know. Maybe." Which can be frustrating, after a while, both for the writer as well as for the reader eager for more complete picture of the enigmatic band's collective personality. Ah, but we've got a plan. Simply put: Divide and conquer. Due to a fortuitos logistical arrangement, singer Hope Sandoval is here in Berkeley and guitarist etc. David Roback is somewhere in Norway. Ray Gun editors call up the record company loudly demanding that interviews must be done right away, for obscure but ominous-sounding deadline reasons. The ruse works - I'll get to talk to Hope here alone, then jet off the next morning to Oslo and put the screws to her partner. The result of my efforts should be either a softening of the glacial Mazzy Star silence or a doubling of same, with jet lag. Either way, my frequent flyer mileage wins.

First things first: Mazzy Star has a new album out. The reason Mazzy Star has agreed to do (a very limited amount of) press is that Mazzy Star has a new album out. The band has made it clear that it doesn't understand why anyone would particulary need or want to talk to them, especially. Everything they had to say they said on the record. Just listen to the record, seems to be the implied message. So, okay, the new record: Among My Swan (I'm not even going to try to figure that one out), while similar in vein to the previous two Mazzy Star records, is a great improvement over what some found to be the stylistic torpor of the last one, So Tonight That I Might See - though that record did represent the band's commercial breakthrough, due mostly to the late-breaking success of the single-and-video "Fade Into You", as well as the added exposure the band garnered when Hope guest-sang on the semi-popular Jesus and Mary Chain track "Sometimes Always," which was in MTV rotation at roughly the same time. Fans of either that record or the previous, far better debut, She Hangs Brightly, will not be shocked by any severe stylistic swerves on Among My Swan. Nevertheless there's evidence of a broadening of the traditional Mazzy palette; a more purely pop sensibility sticks its tongue out on a couple of the newer tracks among all the usual country-blues-such-girl-in-a-pretty-dress-whirling-around sort of stuff, and songs like "Dissapear" and "Take Everything" demonstrate an increased willingness to experiment with a broader range of sounds, the former featuring a dissonant-but-beautiful bell accompaniment. There's even a song called "Happy" that seems to mean it, which in itself could be called a stylistic breakthrough for the determinedly melancholy duo.

Whether the new record duplicates the platinum performance of So Tonight or not remains of course to be seen, but the prospect of either its success or abject failure doesn't seem to trouble the two Mazzy Stars one whit. They seem more bemused by their newfound Modern Rock Star status than enthusiastic about sustaining at least the more public aspects of that status. "What time are you flying to Norway tomorrow?" asks Hope as we sit down at a quiet table in the Berkeley bar (The Spam? The Spit? The Splat? Can't remember) she's chosen for our interview. "Do you like flying or is it sort of a drag for you?" "Um..." I begin, hesitating, thrown a bit off guard by her forthightness. Hope laughs. "You must not like it, because you hesitated. So why not just do it over the phone? Or is it more exciting in person - I mean as far as just talking to the person in person."

"No, it's not that," I reply, slowly getting used to the idea of having the interviewing tables turned on me. I wonder if this is a new tactic she's developed to avoid answering questions. Contrary to anything I'd been led to expect, Hope appears relaxed, confident, maybe a little quiet, but no more so than you average sober American. "You can't really get a sense of the person over the phone; you need to meet them so you can better tell what they're like, I guess. Phone interviews can be so superficial - they're really just used for sort of utilirian promotion; although I guess there's some aspect of that to any kind of press. I mean, why are you here now? Because you've got a new record out. It's not because -" Hope interjects, laughing, "It's fun!" "Do you prefer to do phone interviews? Are they easier?" She considers for a moment. "Yeah. It's easier. But it's obvious why it's easier: It's easier for basically the same reasons why you just said it's better to do it in person."

We talked for a while about the making of Among My Swan, which Hope tells me was recorded partly in Berkeley - at a studio called Live Oak that the band has used for its previous records; it's a basement studio in a house here where bands like En Vogue usually work, but they like it - and partly in London, at the Jesus and Mary Chain's studio and at the Cocteau Twins' studio. "Do you like London?" I ask. "Yeah, I love London," she replies. "I mean, my boyfriend (William Reid from the Mary Chain) lives there." "What do you eat there?" I ask, genuinely puzzled. "Umm, fish and chips," she answers with a vague smile. "I'm big on sandwiches, too. They have great sandwiches in London." "I notice you have a co-production credit on this record." "Well, David does most of the producing, but we both analyze each and every song, and sort of decide what guitar or whatever - mean obviously mostly that's his, because he's the guitarist, but I figured I should get producer's credit because I was involved with most of it."

"Has the level of record company involvement changed with the success of the last record? Did Capitol execs come sniffing around the studio any more than usual?"

"They just seemed like the way they've always been," she says. "They're interested, but they're not gonna force anything on us. They're businessmen, they don't want to hurt the relationship in any way. They want to make things go as smoothly as possible. I know if things got really bad for Mazzy Star it might be a different story, but right now, they're just sort of "Let them do what they need to do and leave them alone, and they'll make a good record."
"What about the composition of the audience? I ask. "I know a lot of bands seem to notice a sort of immediate change once their video gets played a lot on MTV. The audience seems to get younger and, I don't know, stupider in general."
"I don't think that we've reached that point," she replies. "I've heard that that does happen, but I don't think it's happened to us yet. If it has, it's so small that we haven't noticed it."
"What, no mosh pit?" "No. They didn't really do that for us. Well, when we toured with the Mary Chain, I would go onstange and sing "Sometimes Always" with Jim, and people would sort of do that slam-dancing thing."
"Has playing live gotten any easier? I know you used to be real uncomfortable with it."
"Well yeah, all those people just staring at you...."
"But I thought performers were supposed to crave that kind of attention."
She demurs brightly.
"I mean, it's natural for anyone to crave attention, and yeah I guess some people sort of OD on it. I mean, I like attention just like the next person, but playing live is sort of - it's really asking for it."
"Do you feel obligated to put on a show?"
"I feel obligated to sing well, and that's it. I sense that (desire for more interaction) from them, yeah, and that's what makes it uncomfortable. I mean, it's not so bad now most people who come to the shows now realize it's not going to happen, and they accept it, but in the beginning....people would demand it. Like, they demand a show."

Hope looks momentarily perplexed at the thought of her demanding audience. The thought to me that at some point I'm going to have to ask Hope about her lyrics, since after all they represent a large part of her contribution to the Mazzy Star experience. Knowing her reputation for standoffishness when it comes to discussing specific lyrics, I decide to try a more general track, first bucking up to the task by ordering one more in a succesion of  7 & 7s. (Hope sips occasionally from a glass of red wine, but barely manages to finish it by the end of our interview).

"Judging from the sort of overall bent of your lyrics, one might think you have a somewhat jaundiced view of relationships. In general, I mean."
"I think some of that's true," says Hope, tracing her finger lightly over the lips of her wine glass, "but I think people sort of project their own feelings into the lyrics, to coincide with what's going on in their own lives. But I guess you could say that."
"Do you mind people coming up with different interpretations of your songs, or is that the point?"
"It doesn't matter what people think about the lyrics. You can't control it anyway."
"Is there a song on the new album that you would call flat-out celebratory and uplifting?"
"Yeah: 'Happy'"
"I wasn't sure if that was meant to be sarcastic. When you come up with a lyric, do you have a specific meaning in mind that you want to communicate, or is it more of a broad emotion?"
"I don't really think about any of those things, I just sort of talk about what is happening at that particular moment," says Hope. "I think most people, probably everybody who writes lyrics, they are talking about themselves, even if they attempt to sort of talk about their friend, it is themselves, it's their feelings, it's their opinion of the situation. So I think most people, if not everybody, is talking about themselves who write lyrics."
"Does your opinion about things in general and situations differ a lot from time to time, or are you pretty consistent in your thinking?"
"I'm sure it changes."
"Does that mean you're (pause for comedic effect) moody?" I joke. Hope laughs.
"I don't know, I don't know."
"How do you choose what material makes it onto any given album, for instance this one," I ask, changing the subject.
"We record a lot of songs and then just sort of decide what our tastes are that particular month or week or whatever."
"Do you ever revisit unused material?
"We plan to do that after each record, but it never happens. We just sort of get bored of it. We just sort of feel like if you don't write new songs you're just stagnating or whatever."

At this point, I decide that the RayGun plan has been an unqualified success thus far. On their own, unable to fall back on the protection afforded by simply lapsing into an elliptical silence, dropping the conversational ball to be picked up and similary fumbled by the one or the other, Hope and David were forced to be more articulate than their reputation would admit. Or at least Hope was. But I'm getting ahead of myself. Heady with evident interview mastery, I strectched a bit further than my rock writer resources were currently capable of extending, going on an extended and web-headed analysis of the difference in Hope's singing on Among My Swan as opposed to her earlier stuff. All of which boiled down to me suggesting that her melodies were a bit more developed on this record than in the past.

"Umm...I think I know what you mean," answers Hope kindly at the end of my rambling exegesis. "You're the second person who's said that, so I guess maybe it's true, I guess. It's sort of hard to tell, I mean you just keep playing and singing music and it's just sort of whatever happens happens."

"Do you think your voice has improved?"
"(Emphatically) No, I don't think that, but people have told me that they think that."

We talk a while longer, mostly about not terribly interesting things, which is my fault, I eventually start fumbling around with the "What's the last record you bought/book you read/movie you saw" type of fanzine idiocy that usually marks my seventh or eighth cocktail, when Hope is rescued at last by the arrival of her "ride," in the person of William, her boyfriend to whom I am politely introduced, before the two dissapear into the Berkely evening. Early to bed for me: I've got an eight AM plane for Norway.

Oslo, Norway. The airport hotel. A hellish (only in sense that all intercontinental plane travel is hellish) 18-hour journey has ended here, with my head in the minibar awaiting a call from David Roback, Mazzy Star's other half. Flush with my previous success, I anticipate similar accomplishment with Roback, who in any case has a reputation for somewhat more loquacity (of course in a relative sense) than his partner. And she wasn't any problem at all. He calls later that evening, and we fix a rendezvous at a place called the Library Bar off the lobby of the Bristol Hotel in downtown Oslo. I'm glad of the chance to be away from the airport, if only temporarli (my flight out is scheduled for some ungodly morning hour the next day). David is sitting in a booth in a corner of the bar when I arrive, talking to a couple of friends. At least, I assume they're friends. I'm early and so take a place at the bar so as not to compound the imposition of the interview by showing up rudely early.

Roback's easy to spot even in the well-populated bar; with his beatnik black attire and matching beret, he might as well be wearing a sign that reads "Musician." No one's really sure what David's doing here here in Norway. His record company publicist professed complete ignorance, and when I asked Hope, she shruggled and replied, "Ask him." Which I proceeded to do, but was rewareded with an elleptical reply along the lines of, "Travelling." Well, I could see that, Beatnik Boy.

In general, David proved a far more difficult nut to crack then had Hope. He was unfailingly polite, and made an earnest attempt to answer my fruity rock writer questions, but his answers tended to be not only exactly the same as hope, but unrevealing in the extreme - along the lines of "There are no rules in music. It's just what sounds good to you," which I'm sure opens up worlds of meaning in some alternate universe where rock cliches have before been uttered or written, but it didn't do a hell of a lot for me. In another, less accomplished musician, such retience and apparant lack of of insight might be suspect; but Roback has earned the right to keep his trap shut. Beginning with his early 80's work in Rain Parade, a seminal band among the "Paisly Underground" (a short-lived flowering of LA-based psychedelica), through the proto-Mazzy psuch-natterings of Clay Allison and the enormously well-regarded (if commercial obscure) Opal, David's track record basically defines the hoary term "artistic integrity."

When the very 30-something guitarist (there's no hair under that beret, is what I'm thinking) looks you in the eye and says that, "We're just doing what we-ve always done," that "always" contains a lot more history than your typical out-of-nowhere MTV wunderkind. But if you happen to be unaware of his honorable rock record, he's not well inclinded to disabuse you. So, really, it was probably just the jet lag. I opened up by expressing surprise at Hope's lack of retince, to which David replied simply, "You can't believe everything you read." We discussed technical matters concerning guitar sounds and amps and such that can't possibly be of interest to any one reading this now, which obviously is my fault again, and he confirmed to me pretty much everything Hope had already said concerning the process of writing the new album. The only point of dispute seemed to be wheter the bell sounds he used for the songs "Disapear" and "Happy" were sampled (as Hope as informed me), or "created" (David's word) and "definitely not sampled." Like it matters.

Or the subject of record company involvement, David envinced an even more fanatical desire to be left alone than had his partner. "I'd rather just put stuff out on a cheap cassette than let somebody else tell me how to make my music," he averred. I'm thinking to myself, "Why a cheap cassette particularly," but my mind tended to wander badly throughout the course of our chat. David insisted, "I don't really notice the audience," when playing live, but affirmed overall that the process of touring was an enjoyable one, because "you get to present the songs in a different environment." What do you talk about rock music? David couldn't remember the last band he'd seen play live, apart from the ones he's been on tour with.

His musical world seemed unremittingly insular, as evidenced not only by his zealous guarding of any and all personal facts by his seeming proud rejection not only of the music industry but of most of the music itself. If ever a man could be said to be self-sufficient, it would be David Roback. Some of that self-sufficient spirit inevitably translates into Mazzy Star's ambiguous and affecting music. But appertenly the secret behind that transmutative process will remain as tightly wrapped as the man who writes the music keeps himself. An enigma wrapped in a puzzle on a bed of lettuce, or something. Obviously I was a little more than tired by this point. I said good-bye to David and caught a cab back to the airport hotel, where I crawled into bed to await my wakeup call so I could get back in another metal tube and be flung across the ocean. But the joke was, I couldn't get to sleep. The God of Jetlag, or that crazy Norse God Loki, would not let me shut my eyes. I put my tape of the new Mazzy Star record in my Walkman and turned the volume way down, hoping to be lulled asleep by the gentle strains of the music. It didn't work: I just got more disturbed, and lay there in an agitated clump. Which is probably just the kind of reaction those two were looking for.

 

Scene Magazine
Mazzy Star's Magical, Mystical Tour

by Steven Batten

Listening to Mazzy Star's latest is perhaps best experienced snuggled in front of a hot, cozy fire on a cold, dreary winter evening. Or perhaps nestled alongside a lazy, babbling brook at the edge of a golden, grassy field.

The serene, tranquil soundscapes that characterize the duo's third effort, Among My Swan, are likely to be the perfect complement in either case. David Roback's mystical, almost hypnotic melodies and Hope Sandoval's mesmerizing, meandering vocals attempt to transcend both time and place, with considerable success. In fact, with Among My Swan, the duo is now more fully realizing a sonic journey that began with its 1990 debut, She Hangs Brightly, and its promising 1993 follow-up, So Tonight That I Might See.

It's somehow fitting that Roback should be calling from Copenhagen, the seaport capital of Denmark, where the days are growing shorter and the nights colder. Roback's pleasant, though reticent demeanor, seems somehow well suited to his current climate, and as he details his surroundings, you get the impression that it could well be the mood of the new album to which he is referring.

"It's just the beginning of Winter here," he relates, "and the days are really getting shorter the further north you go. The sun only comes out for a few hours a day, so it's starting to get that dark, winter vibe to it."

Perhaps Roback's fondness for such climates manifests itself in the music he writes, but he isn't saying. It's also likely that the duo, which splits time between foggy London and the sunny coast of California, is equally influenced by the subtly clashing cultures in which they choose to reside.

"It definitely affects our lives," Roback allows. "And music is so much a part of our lives that it must affect it. But I couldn't say specifically how."

The distant, mystical and mysterious vibe that surrounds the band is a pleasant side effect of the duo's unconscious decision to eschew the high-profile rock and roll lifestyle for a more focused, meaningful existence.

"We've always sort of considered ourselves to be an underground band," Roback explains, his distrust for the whole rock and roll machine clearly evident. "When we started playing music together, it had absolutely nothing to do with popularity or the music industry, and it's stayed that way. That's the reason why we make music."

Perhaps despite themselves, Roback and Sandoval have built a considerable following over the course of their last two albums. "Fade Into You," the beautifully intoxicating single from So Tonight, paved the way for a larger audience as it took commercial alternative radio and MTV by storm, essentially because it stood in stark contrast to the regular rotation fare at that time.

Likewise, the band's current single, "Flowers In December," has taken root at radio. From his vantage point, however, Roback hasn't really seen much of an effect of platinum records and MTV on the band's loyal following.

"You know, it's always been hard for me to really tell who our audience is," he says. "When we play clubs, it all becomes a big blur in my mind and I can't really say exactly who's in the audience." Roback is equally ambiguous regarding has songwriting partnership with Sandoval (he writes the music, she the lyrics and melodies), which has blossomed over the course of their three releases.

"We write a lot of songs together," he says, downplaying their collaborative formula. "I don't really see it that way, as growing, or going backwards or forwards or any particular direction, other than just song by song. That's how Mazzy Star really works -- we just work on a song by song basis. We have a song we like, and we record it. So we don't really look at it as a progression. We don't analyze it in that way at all."

To wit, the particularly press-shy Roback and Sandoval have shied away from elaborating on what the individual songs mean to them, leaving the songs open to interpretation by critics and fans. Roback says he wouldn't be entirely surprised if fans interpreted completely different meanings than their original intentions.

"I don't often hear how people interpret our music," he says, "but it wouldn't really surprise me if people interpreted it in a very personal way, because I think that that's the way that people react to music. If you took a well known song and asked 10 people to write down what the lyrics are (about), you'd find surprisingly different interpretations of what the lyrics are because people hear what's in their own imagination."

Therein, he says, lies the inherent beauty of the songwriting process. "I think music is something that's very available to all people, to get involved with."

Roback is equally noncommittal regarding his preference for touring versus the studio setting, though he allows that the live setting offers certain facets that the studio can't.

"There's an element of the unknown every time you go to a different city and a different environment to play," he says. "Plus you're really projecting your sound into a much larger space. That's kind of interesting to sort of see what happens with the element of chance involved."

Given the low key, often serene nature of the band's performances (they'll play at the Odeon this Friday, December 6, with special guest Sparklehorse), it's often difficult to discern whether Roback and Sandoval are enjoying themselves, a question Roback dodges with trademark reluctance.

"Sometimes we enjoy it," he says, countering quickly, "It really depends on the concert. Some concerts are more interesting than others."

With the band's fan base growing rapidly, it's likely that their forthcoming Cleveland date will be the first time that many in the audience have experienced Mazzy Star live. What does Roback think they can expect?

"I think you would pretty much just expect to hear our music," he offers cooperatively, maintaining his elusive demeanor. "I think whenever you hear music live, not only are the musicians playing it differently, but you're also responding to it differently, because you're listening to it in a different context than if you were listening to it at home or in your car, listening to a record. So the context really is changed for both the musician and the listener."

Onstage, Mazzy Star are flushed out with the addition of musicians Will Cooper (strings), Keith Mitchell (drums) and former Hole member Jill Emery (bass). The focus of the current tour's set, Roback says, is on the new album, though he maintains that they don't pin themselves down to any standard set list. Somehow, that's just not surprising.

"Our show really changes day to day, depending on what we're in the mood to play," Roback relates. "We don't really have any one group of songs that we play, but we've been incorporating some of the new songs. We've been thinking a lot about how these new songs sound live, so that's one of the things we're into now."

 

Addicted to Noise Dec 11, 96
Mazzy Star's Big Mistake

No, Mazzy Star didn't write "Hair and Skin."

Addicted To Noise staff writer Gil Kaufman reports: The b-side of the latest UK Mazzy Star single sounded awfully familiar to former Green on Red front man Dan Stuart.

As Stuart tells it, he'd heard that Mazzy Star might record the song, "Hair and Skin," about six months ago. But recently, when he started getting calls about it again, he went down to the local record store he frequents in Tucson and picked up the single. "It's a song that's on our first real record, Down There ," Stuart told Addicted To Noise, sounding more amused than pissed off. "To be quite honest, I couldn't even remember how the damn thing went."

Stuart says he bought the import (the a-side is ""Flowers in December"), then asked the clerk to slap the song on, just to be certain. Sure enough, Stuart not only recognized the song, but was surprised to see that the songwriting credit tagged it as a Mazzy Star composition.

"I was just amazed that anybody could figure out how to play it since I can't even remember where my fingers are supposed to go," laughed Stuart, who said he was aware that Mazzy Star has frequently covered the song in their live shows.

As it turns out, like Stuart told us, there's no "grassy knoll." According to a source at Capitol Records, the company Mazzy Star record for, the mis-credited tune was a "big oversight, a big mistake that they (Capitol's English counterparts) are very embarrassed about."

The folks at Capitol confirmed that the song in question is in fact a Green on Red song that was mistakenly credited to Mazzy Star and that the oversight will be changed on future runs of the single. Our Capitol source also told us that a letter of apology has been sent to Bug Music [the company that handles Stuart's publishing] and that, effective immediately, Stuart will get proper compensation.

Stuart says he's received word of the apology and joked, "If they really want to make it up to me, they could pick some other song I wrote 20 years ago and make it the single instead of the b-side."

Stuart added that he wouldn't mind if some of Nick Lowe's luck rubbed off on him. "Somebody put '(What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and Understanding,' on The Bodyguard soundtrack and Lowe got a check for [something like] $3 million. I guess miracles do happen."

 

FrontEra Magazine 2.1 (May 96)
Looking for Hope

Mazzy Star's inscrutable muse,
Hope Sandoval, fades into the limelight

by Mark Torres and E.V. Aniles
 
Esperanza?
She hangs brightly over our curious minds. Trying to get to the bottom of Hope Sandoval, singer and songwriter for the band Mazzy Star, is like listening to one of her songs: It's slow and painful.

We know she's from East L.A. We know she spends some of her days in her new home in Berkeley, with her guitarist (and ex-boyfriend) Dave Roback, and the rest of her days in London with her current boyfriend, the Jesus and Mary Chain's William Reid. We know that her songs are dreamy, mournful and dispassionate. We know she stands stiff as a statue on stage, only occasionally lifting her twig-thin arms to play a harmonica or execute a graceful turn on her way off stage. And little more.

As the other half of Mazzy Star, Roback can pull more soul out of his acoustic guitar and steel pedal than you'd find on an entire Lollapalooza Tour. In a musical climate where beat and volume rule, Mazzy Star unapologetically blends traditional folk, blues, and psychedelic church. While it remains impossible to understand Mazzy Star without mentioning psychedelia-inspired groups like The Paisley Underground, The Dream Syndicate, The Rain Parade and Opal, it is Hope Sandoval alone who places Mazzy Star on its perch above other modern bands.

Sandoval's position as rock's melancholy muse came to her serendipitously in the late '80s. She was minding her own business, hanging out in L.A. and working with her friend Sylvia Gomez in a folksy band called Going Home. Dave Roback, guitarist and songwriter for Opal, saw Going Home and liked them enough to produce a record with them. Sandoval and Roback became friends. Then, while Roback and Opal singer Kendra Smith were touring, Smith decided to make a getaway. Hope joined Roback mid-tour and has been the voice of Mazzy Star since.

The transition from being a local artist to touring the world, selling out shows and performing live on national television was not easy for Sandoval. "For me recording is better," she told Rolling Stone. "Live, I just get really nervous. Once you're on-stage, you're expected to perform. I don't do that. I always feel awkward about just standing there and not speaking to the audience."

When you listen to her music and see her perform, you get a sense that she's too fragile for this world. She's like a person who grew up in a happy place with lots of family, warmth and love, but was ripped away from all that and thrown into a harsh world. A flower in a stainless-steel garden. Maybe that's why she offers so little of herself at every sold out concert. "I feel obligated to sing well, and that's it," Sandoval said during an interview with Ray Gun. She's philosophical about her unwillingness to give of herself publicly. "I sense (a desire for audience interaction) from them, yeah, and that's what makes it uncomfortable. I mean, it's not so bad now; most people who come to the shows realize it's not going to happen, and they accept it, but in the beginning ... people would demand it. Like, they demand a show."

If you want to understand Hope or find out what inspires her to write music, you won't have any luck with a direct approach. She's not an open or obvious person, and neither is her music. She's shy. She's private. She's genuine. She's an enigma -- not by choice, but by nature. And at the same time, her music is very personal. When you listen to her music, you get the feeling she's reading from her diary, with all the names deleted, of course.

On Mazzy Star's third, and newest, album, Among My Swan, Sandoval's haunting lyrics speak of lost love, love that never happened, love that could have been, but with just enough disinterest it almost seems to be about someone else. Listening to songs like "Disappear," "Cry, Cry," "Take Everything,""Still Cold," "I've Been Let Down" and "Rose Blood" is as close to knowing her as you're ever going to get. "Cry, cry for you/Just like you knew I wouldn't do," she croons.

You'll never get an answer one way or the other about what the songs mean to her. "I think people sort of project their own feelings into the lyrics to coincide with what's going on their lives," she says, not making any judgments about the fact. She goes on to say about the level of personalization in her songs: "I think most people, probably everybody who writes lyrics, they are talking about themselves, even if they attempt to sort of talk about their friend, it is themselves, it's their feelings, it's their opinion of the situation. So I think most people, if not everybody, is talking about themselves who write lyrics."

While some critics have expressed disappointment that Among My Swan explores no new territory musically, Sandoval has said she isn't concerned with living up to expectations now that the band has international fame. "Things are basically the same," she told Rolling Stone when the album first came out. "We're just sticking to our ways. Writing the way we've always done it. There's really no need to change."

The band's first two albums, 1990's She Hangs Brightly and 1993's So Tonight That I Might See, placed Mazzy Star firmly in the alternative rock star firmament. With the heavy MTV rotation of their video, "Fade Into You," Sandoval's angelic Chicana features became familiar to teens and college kids nationwide. The hitch is, the fact that she's Mexican-American is little known outside of East L.A., where everyone has a story about how they used to go to school with her, or with one of her siblings or cousins. In that sense, though we'd like to claim her, just knowing she's out there is enough.

So maybe it's when she seems to be saying the least that she's actually saying the most:

"You just keep playing and singing music, and it's just sort of whatever happens, happens."

Thanks, Jennifer.

Rolling Stone’s ALT-ROCK-A-RAMA
By Scott Schinder and the Editors of Rolling Stone


Mazzy Star. Change of pace for me. Their songs are beautiful, as are Hope Sandoval’s vocals. When I hear this music, I can feel good or cry, depending on my mood.

©1996 Rolling Stone Press

  See Also:
Concert News & Reviews  Writeups on various Mazzy concert gigs.
Album Reviews  About 20 different reviews of Among My Swan and I rank them, so you don't have to waste your time on the bad ones.
Foreign Language   For our german-speaking friends.

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