[ Back ] [ Up ] [ Next ]

Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 09:10:32 -0400
From: Eric
Subject: Re: btlist: THAT PARTY & ROOM LAYOUT

At 02:13 PM 7/11/98 +1000, you wrote:
>Eric & Joshy
>
>A final note on bedrooms. Have you noticed that Leah's bedroom has the
>same layout as Trevor & Ste's.

Actually, it doesn't. Ste's bedroom has the door on one end of the room.
Leah's door is opposite her windows, more like Sandra's.

-Eric

*****************************************************

Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 10:50:42 -0400
From: MGB
Subject: Re: btlist: The parents :-)

Well, there is nothing definate said about either parent and what really
happened to them. I know it has been speculated about, but neither play nor
movie says specifically what happened or where they are at the time of the
play. Ive read someone speculate that perhaps Ste's mom died and Trevor may
blame Ste and thats why he is abusive which I think is an interesting concept.
I cant imagine that his mom would be alive and allow him to be with his dad. Of
course there are lots of things that go on in this world that I cant imagine but
actually do! Anywho!
Once again, my 2 cents may not amount to much, but there it is!
MGB or chichi, Ill answer to both!

Eric  wrote:

> At 09:56 PM 7/10/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >No mention of either, tim. sorry!
> >MGB
>
> Shame on you ChiChi!! The play *does* mention Jamie's dad... though not
> what happened to him. Sandra claims that she has called in to one of those
> "Crime Stopper" type shows because she thought she recognized Jamie's
> father picture on the incident desk as a robber. That's the only mention of
> him in the play.
>
> -Eric
>

*****************************************************

Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 10:59:26 -0400
From: MGB <
Subject: Re: btlist: RE: The room layouts...

It probably all had to do with filming. Which rooms worked best for each scene
and not really any conscience effort on behalf of the director to make it as
described in the play. When you use already existing 'sets' and not ones
constructed on a soundstage, I would think that you just have to make do with
what you have. It seems like they were just trying to find 3 flats together in
Themeasmede (I never can remember how to spell that!) so that they could get
real life shots and not from a soundstage. I really dont think that there was
any discussion on who should be in which room and why. The larger room probably
just worked better cinematographically (is that a word??) to be Jamies.

Cheers
MGB (aka chichi on irc)
Am i going through an identity crisis
No youre not, just shut up and send the mail
OK!
Later all!!!!!!!!

Joshua  wrote:

> My thoughts on the fact that Leah, Ste and Trevor had the same room layouts
> was that they had gotten the "front" bedroom which we see Sandra in. This
> being the smaller room, and the fact that Leah's mum had the same room Jamie
> had, led me to believe that Jamie had been given the "master bedroom" in
> order to make him feel better about something we may not know about, or that
> his mum didn't want such a large room. I don't know. I just assumed from
> what I'd seen that all the flats were laid out the same and that Trevor and
> Ste had the room next to Sandra's. Since Leah's flat was a bit further back
> than Jamie and Sandra's, she really only bordered with the room of the other
> couple. Well that must be confusing for most of you... hehehe
>
> Well I think that since the movie couldn't possibly be exactly like the
> play, I'm guessing that wherever it was mentioned that they slept close
> together was in the flats you'd find in the taller buildings. I think the
> fact that there had been a last-minute change to the other flats (which
> appear in the film) made it impossible to be the way they'd described it in
> the play.
>
> Okay? =o)
>
> Sorry to have brought it up and confused everyone!
>
> Love,
> Joshy
>

*****************************************************

Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 12:04:27 -0400
From: MGB
Subject: btlist: the 'rents

One other quick thought on this. We can also asume that Jamie doesnt
know his dad since he asks Sandra if he looks like his dad. To which
she replys the no, you look like me...so we can surmise that Jamie bears
no resemblance to his dad, that is if you believe Sandra. She later
lies to him about how she found out he went to the Gloucester (another
one I never can remember how to spell) so is she being truthful here or
just trying to spare his feelings. It would be interesting to speculate
about Jamie trying to find his dad one day, but im not the writer in the
family!
Cheers again!
MGB...totally unsure who he is right now!!!!!

*****************************************************

From: "Alex
Subject: btlist: touched by your stories
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 12:22:12 PDT

Hi my friends out there!

I've just spent almost two hours (oh my God! What a bill this month!)
reading your stories about BT and I'm so touched by them!
They are simply great! So real! So sweet and tender!!!

Thanks to all of you who wrote these stories for all of us keeping the
spirit of BT alive!!!

A special thank (and a huge kiss) to Sandra and Kent and to all of you I
had the pleasure to meet in London ... I really miss you all ...

I feel at home here ....

Take care

Love .... Alex

XXX :-)

P.S. It's just another hot summer night here in Milan and everybody's
watching the World Cup ... think I'll play BT once more and watch the
photos of London....

*****************************************************

From: "Jamie
Subject: Re: btlist: About me
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 13:08:26 PDT

Hi jenny Jo!
How you doing! Sorry i am a bit late in saying hi but my hotmail account
was 'closed for maintenance work' or something yesterday! I hate it so
much when they do that! Anyway hi, i am new to this list too and you are
almost the same age as me so it can't be bad! I turned 17 on the 5th of
July! Glad you like 'beautiful Thing' i am totally obsessed by it and
hopefully speak to you soon.
Love,
Jamie

*****************************************************

Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:20:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: CARMEN
Subject: Re: btlist: revolt

On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, tom wrote:

> Hi there carmen.
>
> I am from Indiana and many arrogant Americans do think of Canada not as
> a nation, but like a really big fifty-first state. I disagree. Canada
> has its own culture and well, government and it is probably more
> sensible than the US system.

Well.. we aren't! and yeah, we know what some americans think of us... but
that's okay... we sometimes think of the US a just another large province
to live in... one that we're gradually invading...:-) you'd be surprised
at the number of Canadians living and working in the US... Some of the
most prominant Americans in Hollywood are actually Canadian, not to
mention all those hockey players ! :-))

> Do you like the Barenaked Ladies?

Yes I do..:-)

> Tom

*****************************************************

From: jmcs
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 23:26:42 +0000
Subject: Re: btlist: THUD!

Eric the Teaser wrote:

> Thanks to both Ian and Hannes, we have some lovely additions to the website.

> See! Scott Nude! (heh, heh, just kidding, Sandra!!) ;-)

You're wicked, Eric. Truuuuly wicked!! But remember: she who laughs last
laughs longest! (I don't know how in hell this relates to your wickedness
but I had to say it!) :)

> Eric
> and of course, there's more to come!

Of course, teaser to the end! But as Mama Cass said: "Wait and see!" :)

Also, welcome, Jenny Jo and Roger!!! You'll have the greatest of times
here and you'll make the best friends in the whole world! I talk from
personal experience!

Take care,

Sandra.

*****************************************************

From: "Kent ."
Subject: Re: btlist: the 'rents
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 10:44:51 PDT

On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, MGB
(or maybe it was chichi, or maybe it was Michael, or maybe even "totally
unsure"-- cool nick; try *that* next time you're on IRC, Mr. Barron!
:)) wrote:

>One other quick thought on this. We can also asume that Jamie doesnt
>know his dad since he asks Sandra if he looks like his dad. To which
>she replys the no, you look like me...so we can surmise that Jamie
bears
>no resemblance to his dad, that is if you believe Sandra.
Oh yeah, first things first-- your opinions are always worth a lot (LOT)
more than two cents, and I'm always glad to read them-- so there!

Second thing: Actually, the line from the Screenplay (watch, with my
luck, maybe Glen altered the words onscreen) is "Am I like my dad?", to
which Sandra replies "No. You're like me." Since this comes after
Jamie wised off to Sandra (real mean-spiritedly; it is in some ways
his least admirable moment and shows us a bit of Jamie's anger and use
of words as his preferred weapons), and physically fought back (hit a
*woman*!), I thought the exchange was more a discussion of Jamie's
behavior than his appearance. Since he just finished referring to how
"that bloke o' yours beat [Sandra] up", I had thought he was asking if
he, Jamie, also had in him the tendency to be physically abusive. This
of course surmises that the aforementioned "bloke" was also Jamie's dad,
even though the "bloke" could've simply been one of Sandra's previous
boyfriends. Even so, I think it's not his looks he is comparing to his
dad's.

> She later
>lies to him about how she found out he went to the Gloucester (another
>one I never can remember how to spell) so is she being truthful here
or
>just trying to spare his feelings.

I think her later lie comes out easier (and she spares herself guilt by
lying), whereas here, in the full throes of such raw emotion, she is
more likely to be telling the honest truth, especially because (sparing
of Jamie's emotions or not), it reflects badly on her. And there
aren't many instances when Sandra ignores an opportunity to let people
know how good a mother she has been to Jamie! (But there is no way to
*know* the answer, of course).

> It would be interesting to speculate
>about Jamie trying to find his dad one day, but im not the writer in
the
>family!
>Cheers again!

For that real nifty story suggestion, Michael, "Cheers!" right back
atcha, kiddo!

Kent

P.S. Gavin  (whom many of you may know is someone I speak to,
um, "occasionally" <G>, has asked me to pass on the message that he
hasn't had email access for awhile, which explains his list silence.
Also, he has been unable to reply to personal emails, but that problem
should be resolved shortly-- i.e., Monday)

--"Messenger K" (hey, Michael, this multiple personality thing is cool!
:))

*****************************************************

Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:56:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: CARMEN
Subject: Re: btlist: the 'rents

Idon't have to movie myself ( or even a TV at the moment!) so I can't say
for certain... but if I remember correctly, Jamie doesn't start hitting at
Sandra until *after* she starts hitting him... and he stops before she
does...from what I remember... he's more *blocking* **her** blows that
striking her himself.
Opinions anyone?
tory

*****************************************************

Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:36:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: CARMEN
Subject: Re: btlist: When Did The Party Happen?

> You be careful when you admit that you are a loyal Canadian in anti-Canada
> Quebec. But as a canadian, I'll fight to the death, if necessary, to see
> La belle province, reamin part of this magnificant country.
>
>
WHoa!
First of all, I'm a Quebec Anglo.( Anglos don't know any better..:-) )..
and second, I'm a Montrealer... and Montreal is a Federalist city..:-)

Quebec isn't a hotbed of violence where separation is concerned... The
October Crisis was a *long* time ago... most of the problems now are that
the bloody politicians have managed to keep the majority of the
francophone population ignorant of the real costs of separation... and
have them believing that it's entirely likely and feasable... but we'll
tough it out..:-) certainly the last thing we want is for armed for to get
involved... that'd *really* blow the lid off the boiling pot!
tory

*****************************************************

From: Michael
Subject: btlist: Desperately Seeking Thamesmead
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 22:59:59 -0400

Hi!

My name is Adam. I'm 29, and I live in Virginia (USA for those of you in
other areas of the world). I first found out about the movie BT last June
or July when it came on American Pay Per View Television. Soon thereafter,
I wandered onto the website, and then, onto the DALnet IRC channel. The
movie left upon me, as it has so many others, a profound effect.

It was my pleasure to come to London in October, 1997, and meet some of the
most die-hard supporters of all things BT. I've chatted with so many people
extensively, and it was in making their virtual acquaintance that I felt
renewed with a restored faith in the innate goodness of others. My mate of
eleven years was completely in awe that such a varied and unique group of
people could come together and have such a fast friendship.

I've never really posted properly to the list, but I've noticed lately that
there are a tidal wave of newcomers. Now that's a truly beautiful thing.

It's nice to know that the film is still spawning new friendships and
continued discussion. BT is like an old friend whom you find yourself
checking in on from time to time over the years. I hope that never changes.

My main purpose for writing this message is to say hello to some beautiful
things in their own right, Chris B., Chris C., Martijn, Andre, Marc, Gavin
K., Erik(s), Robert, Joe (the absent), Eric, and Jeff. I think of each of
you with a smile always.

Adam

*****************************************************

From: "Jeff"
Subject: btlist: Canada, and back to BT
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 18:56:51 -0500

Actually, with all due respect, I don't think most Americans think about
Canada. But that could just be me. I think it's a sovereign nation like
all the rest. (Even the microdots that don't deserve to be sovereign
countries.) Of course, if Canada falls apart, we'd gladly accept the
oil-rich Prairie Provinces and Ontario. And the Atlantic Provinces can join
Mississippi and the other poor U.S. states. Heck, Toronto would be a nice,
big, AMERICAN city.

But I am a bit off topic.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: CARMEN
Date: Saturday, July 11, 1998 4:21 p.m.
Subject: Re: btlist: revolt

>
>
>On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, tom wrote:
>
>> Hi there carmen.
>>
>> I am from Indiana and many arrogant Americans do think of Canada not as
>> a nation, but like a really big fifty-first state. I disagree. Canada
>> has its own culture and well, government and it is probably more
>> sensible than the US system.
>
>Well.. we aren't! and yeah, we know what some americans think of us... but
>that's okay... we sometimes think of the US a just another large province
>to live in... one that we're gradually invading...:-) you'd be surprised
>at the number of Canadians living and working in the US... Some of the
>most prominant Americans in Hollywood are actually Canadian, not to
>mention all those hockey players ! :-))
>
>> Do you like the Barenaked Ladies?
>
>Yes I do..:-)
>
>> Tom
>
>

*****************************************************

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:48:05 +1000
From: William
Subject: btlist: Re: Gay Living History 101

How things have changed - from the other end of the world.

Twenty years ago (24 June 1978) in Sydney (Australia) there was street march of
a few thousand souls. The occasion was the Day of International Gay
Solidarity. The march was attacked by the police, broken up and 53 people
arrested. This year (1998) the same march has become the Gay and Lesbian Mardi
Gras Parade and was watched by over 500,000 people. Marching in the parade was
a large group of Police Officers. They were applauded by the crowd.

And as another sign of the times:

Strange occurrence in the City of Sydney.

This afternoon I was walking along Oxford Street (the centre of gay life in
Sydney). I passed the Stonewall Hotel (no prizes for guessing what that's named
after) and inside I beheld a drag queen, tastefully dressed as Playboy bunny.
Then I heard her words:

'Don't worry, you can still win. Eyes down. Eight two, eighty two...'

I can hardly believe it - bingo in a gay pub. At last somewhere Leahs' mum
would be comfortable.

William

*****************************************************

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 04:00:02 -0400
From: MGB
Subject: Re: btlist: the 'rents

I guess i interpreted am i like my dad to be a physical/personality remark. But
as we all know in real life, what one person hears/interprets can be totally
different from yours. More diversity...gotta love it!!!
Well, I certainly didnt interpret it that way~
Aww, shut up ya big queen, youre clueless about anything but clothes~
And it is so obvious that you have no fashion sense~
Ummm...we had better resolve this offline....
Cheers all!
Hola!!!
You jus had to get in the last word~
Well, I am a big queen!~
That aint all thats big!!!!~
Bitch!~
=]

Kent . wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, MGB
> (or maybe it was chichi, or maybe it was Michael, or maybe even "totally
> unsure"-- cool nick; try *that* next time you're on IRC, Mr. Barron!
> :)) wrote:
>
> >One other quick thought on this. We can also asume that Jamie doesnt
> >know his dad since he asks Sandra if he looks like his dad. To which
> >she replys the no, you look like me...so we can surmise that Jamie
> bears
> >no resemblance to his dad, that is if you believe Sandra.
> Oh yeah, first things first-- your opinions are always worth a lot (LOT)
> more than two cents, and I'm always glad to read them-- so there!
>
> Second thing: Actually, the line from the Screenplay (watch, with my
> luck, maybe Glen altered the words onscreen) is "Am I like my dad?", to
> which Sandra replies "No. You're like me." Since this comes after
> Jamie wised off to Sandra (real mean-spiritedly; it is in some ways
> his least admirable moment and shows us a bit of Jamie's anger and use
> of words as his preferred weapons), and physically fought back (hit a
> *woman*!), I thought the exchange was more a discussion of Jamie's
> behavior than his appearance. Since he just finished referring to how
> "that bloke o' yours beat [Sandra] up", I had thought he was asking if
> he, Jamie, also had in him the tendency to be physically abusive. This
> of course surmises that the aforementioned "bloke" was also Jamie's dad,
> even though the "bloke" could've simply been one of Sandra's previous
> boyfriends. Even so, I think it's not his looks he is comparing to his
> dad's.
>
> > She later
> >lies to him about how she found out he went to the Gloucester (another
> >one I never can remember how to spell) so is she being truthful here
> or
> >just trying to spare his feelings.
>
> I think her later lie comes out easier (and she spares herself guilt by
> lying), whereas here, in the full throes of such raw emotion, she is
> more likely to be telling the honest truth, especially because (sparing
> of Jamie's emotions or not), it reflects badly on her. And there
> aren't many instances when Sandra ignores an opportunity to let people
> know how good a mother she has been to Jamie! (But there is no way to
> *know* the answer, of course).
>
> > It would be interesting to speculate
> >about Jamie trying to find his dad one day, but im not the writer in
> the
> >family!
> >Cheers again!
>
> For that real nifty story suggestion, Michael, "Cheers!" right back
> atcha, kiddo!
>
> Kent
>
> P.S. Gavin  (whom many of you may know is someone I speak to,
> um, "occasionally" <G>, has asked me to pass on the message that he
> hasn't had email access for awhile, which explains his list silence.
> Also, he has been unable to reply to personal emails, but that problem
> should be resolved shortly-- i.e., Monday)
>
> --"Messenger K" (hey, Michael, this multiple personality thing is cool!
> :))
>

*****************************************************

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 04:17:48 -0400
From: MGB
Subject: btlist: reel.com

Reel.com has bt on sale for 14.99 and it is #4 on their best sellers
list!!!! Cool eh!!
MGB

*****************************************************

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 07:35:31 -0700
From: Jean
Subject: Re: btlist: reel.com

Welcome, Jenny Jo!!

MGB wrote:

>Reel.com has bt on sale for 14.99 and it is #4 on their best sellers
>list!!!! Cool eh!!

Extremely!! It's actually their new best seller list but regardless, a whole
lot of people are loving it and buying it and watching it, that's the
important part!!!! Great news, thanks MGB (and your equally charming
flipside if she's listening!!)

J.

*****************************************************

From: "Kent ."
Subject: Re: btlist: the 'rents
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:07:54 PDT

On Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:56:18, CARMEN  wrote:

>Idon't have to movie myself ( or even a TV at the moment!) so I can't
say
>for certain... but if I remember correctly, Jamie doesn't start hitting
at
>Sandra until *after* she starts hitting him... and he stops before she
>does...from what I remember... he's more *blocking* **her** blows that
>striking her himself.
> Opinions anyone?
>tory

Hi Tory!

Mea culpa, Tory-- I boo-boo'd big time!

Since I helped contribute to this confusion, maybe I can help clear it
up. When I wrote in reply to Michael-Many-Personas :), I was referring
to the Screenplay, as I always do when trying to quote dialogue
accurately. As a result, my focus was on the stage directions, as
presented in the Screenplay. They are similar to the those in the
playscript, which I also had at hand-- in both instances, the directions
indicate that Jamie either "starts to hit back...He kicks" (BT
Screenplay, page 42) or "he hits back. They fight like cat and dog..."
(BT Play Script, page 35) Had I done the right thing and pop the tape
in (but I was already online and, well, you know... LAZY!! :)), I could
have confirmed that, even though the line reading *is* "how am I like my
dad", there is NO instance of Jamie actually striking, or even raising a
hand (as if to strike a blow) to, Sandra. Throughout, Jamie either
holds his arms/hand/fists defensively about his head, or, in his only
active part of this fight, holds Sandra's wrists up as he pushes her
away, and she lands on the living room chair. My previous
interpretation needs a revision! Although I still say he may be
comparing himself to his father in that he is-- if not physically
abusive-- at least verbally cruel to his mother (and, yes, cutting
remarks slice in both directions between this Mother and Son); he
definitely could not, given the evidence of the scene, be thinking he
would be the type to "beat on" a woman-- or, for that matter, any
person. Which certainly seems more true to his character as played in
the rest of the film. Jamie is more a lover than a fighter!

But this still raises the issue of what that line (about being like his
dad) may be *intended* to convey. I repeat Tory's query: any
opinions? Also, a question for those (like Michael/MGB) who have seen
the play, especiallly those who have been to it a *number* of times (Hi,
Jay P.! :)) : Does the director of the play there (or in Sydney--
Michael D., if you're here! or maybe Peter M. can fill us in about his
Edinburgh BT ...) have Jamie fight back, *hit* back, as the directions
indicate? And (last question today, I promise! :)) does/did that
affect the meaning given to the "Am I like my dad" line any?

I now imitate my dear friend, Sandra (who writes the following about
herself, not about me), and say what you're doubtless thinking: SHUT
UP, KENT!!!!! :)

Kent
shutting up! :)

*****************************************************

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 17:15:56 -0400
From: MGB
Subject: Re: btlist: the 'rents

The Chicago production is quite physical at that point as they really throwdown
and roll around on the stage! In fact in the first show I saw, someone had
priviously broken one of the globes covering the light by a door (the door was
slammed earlier causing the globe to fall) and there was glass on stage making
the scene rather dangerous for the actors. They are both tusseling pretty
hard. I never really thought of Jamie's remark in reference to the fight that
just occurred and they had just been talking about the former boyfriend
physically abusing Sandra. But if he is more like his mom, she is quite a
tigress too!
MGB whose thoughts have now risen to the obsenly cost of 3 cents each!
(and they arent worth it so just ignore him!)
Oh can it!
(Dont you just love his witty reparte)
Im ignoring you...Lalalalalalalalalala
(What, im sorry i cant here you for all this obnoxious singing!)
We'll go now! Hugs to all!!!
(That we can agree on! Kisses too!)

Kent . wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:56:18, CARMEN  wrote:
>
> >Idon't have to movie myself ( or even a TV at the moment!) so I can't
> say
> >for certain... but if I remember correctly, Jamie doesn't start hitting
> at
> >Sandra until *after* she starts hitting him... and he stops before she
> >does...from what I remember... he's more *blocking* **her** blows that
> >striking her himself.
> > Opinions anyone?
> >tory
>
> Hi Tory!
>
> Mea culpa, Tory-- I boo-boo'd big time!
>
> Since I helped contribute to this confusion, maybe I can help clear it
> up. When I wrote in reply to Michael-Many-Personas :), I was referring
> to the Screenplay, as I always do when trying to quote dialogue
> accurately. As a result, my focus was on the stage directions, as
> presented in the Screenplay. They are similar to the those in the
> playscript, which I also had at hand-- in both instances, the directions
> indicate that Jamie either "starts to hit back...He kicks" (BT
> Screenplay, page 42) or "he hits back. They fight like cat and dog..."
> (BT Play Script, page 35) Had I done the right thing and pop the tape
> in (but I was already online and, well, you know... LAZY!! :)), I could
> have confirmed that, even though the line reading *is* "how am I like my
> dad", there is NO instance of Jamie actually striking, or even raising a
> hand (as if to strike a blow) to, Sandra. Throughout, Jamie either
> holds his arms/hand/fists defensively about his head, or, in his only
> active part of this fight, holds Sandra's wrists up as he pushes her
> away, and she lands on the living room chair. My previous
> interpretation needs a revision! Although I still say he may be
> comparing himself to his father in that he is-- if not physically
> abusive-- at least verbally cruel to his mother (and, yes, cutting
> remarks slice in both directions between this Mother and Son); he
> definitely could not, given the evidence of the scene, be thinking he
> would be the type to "beat on" a woman-- or, for that matter, any
> person. Which certainly seems more true to his character as played in
> the rest of the film. Jamie is more a lover than a fighter!
>
> But this still raises the issue of what that line (about being like his
> dad) may be *intended* to convey. I repeat Tory's query: any
> opinions? Also, a question for those (like Michael/MGB) who have seen
> the play, especiallly those who have been to it a *number* of times (Hi,
> Jay P.! :)) : Does the director of the play there (or in Sydney--
> Michael D., if you're here! or maybe Peter M. can fill us in about his
> Edinburgh BT ...) have Jamie fight back, *hit* back, as the directions
> indicate? And (last question today, I promise! :)) does/did that
> affect the meaning given to the "Am I like my dad" line any?
>
> I now imitate my dear friend, Sandra (who writes the following about
> herself, not about me), and say what you're doubtless thinking: SHUT
> UP, KENT!!!!! :)
>
> Kent
> shutting up! :)
>

*****************************************************

Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:39:21 +0100
From: w
Subject: btlist: BT in Birmingham

Hi all you Beautifull Things

I have just been mailed by Peter  about the performances at the
Wellington Hotel in Birmingham.
He Said
Yes, the shows are on Wed and Thurs, 5th/6th August, at 8pm in the
Wellington Hotel (well pub) on Bristol St, Birmingham, opposite the
dome nightclub. Simply a pre-Edinburgh show in the intimacy of a pub
backroom, therefore the set has had to be cut down a little (as has
the stage space - watch the actors fall over each other - only
kidding!) Tickets cost 5 pounds, and will be on sale on the door.

As I work in Birmingham during the week Im definatly going, I was just
wondering if any one else is planning to go. Perhaps we could meet up peter
has said that he may be able to hold tickets at the door if I want

Warwick

*****************************************************

From: ep
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:55:20 -0400
Subject: Re: btlist: the 'rents

>But this still raises the issue of what that line (about being like his
>dad) may be *intended* to convey. I repeat Tory's query: any
>opinions? Also, a question for those (like Michael/MGB) who have seen
>the play, especiallly those who have been to it a *number* of times (Hi,
>Jay P.! :)) : Does the director of the play there (or in Sydney--
>Michael D., if you're here! or maybe Peter M. can fill us in about his
>Edinburgh BT ...) have Jamie fight back, *hit* back, as the directions
>indicate? And (last question today, I promise! :)) does/did that
>affect the meaning given to the "Am I like my dad" line any?

As the divine (tho slightly schitzo) Chichi has said, Jamie does slap
Sandra back in the Chicago production. In fact, the slap is so loud, you
are stunned that he has hit her so hard. At the end of the fight, I think
Jamie is quite ashamed of himself. He loves his mother, and he knows his
sharp tongue and the fighting were bang out of order. I think that's why he
asks if he's like his Dad.

-Eric

*****************************************************

Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:59:25 +0100 (BST)
From: Stu
Subject: Re: btlist: Thanks for the welcome!

Hey Jamie, and hello all.

Sorry it's taken a while to respond to this email, but i've been busy
working.

Jamie, some advice, if it helps or not.

I'm sure that a person with our whit and charm, and looks will get a bf,
sooner, than later. I feel that there must be hundreds if not, half the
amount of students at school, who are gay, but haven't let the cat out of
the bag, so to speak. I was wondering if you'd checked out the clubs and
event that the school holds, and whether there was a lgb (lesbian gay and
Bisexual) society within your school ? or outside, locally to you.

This would benefit both yourself, and them. As there may be others who
are gay, but haven't told anyone, and have joined a society such as the
lgb. Usually you can find out if these societies exist or not, through a
local paper, or from word of mouth.

If all goes according to plan, you'll be joining a club/society in no
time!!

If however there isn't one in your school/area, then why not find some
people who are also gay, and forming your own society, and get approval
from an organisation like stonewall.

I remember my days at school. Unfortunately I wasn't aware of society in
full. When I was 16 I was kept inside, because of my mental age, being 12
at that time, and it affected my studies and my social life. I wasn't
good at sports, I was small for my age, and I had problems learning to
read and write and do simple arithmetic. I didn't even know about being
gay, and was being called it, at school, and i didn't understand. One
thing which hit me by surprise was that the way i spoke, which was well
spoken english, and also the pitch of my voice, which was high at that
time, made them believe I was gay, and I wasn't, at that time. Unreal
isn't it, but it's true, I tell you.

Today I understand fully what it's all about, and wish I could have turned
back the clocks, and been a bit more mature, but it's not possible.

To you, I wish you every success, and anyone else.

with reguards.

stu.
x

On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Jamie G wrote:

> Hi there William,
> Thanks for your support. Maybe things will work out in the end. Once i
> get a Boyfriend i will be happy. the rest can just get lost then. I
> really wish i had a gay friend at school, that would be so great, but it
> just isn't going to happen i don't think. :-(! I can keep on hoping
> though i guess!
> Thanks again,
> Jamie
>
>
>
> >Hi Jamey & all you wonderful people out there.
> >
> >School can be a bitch. I was lucky because I had one gay school friend
> who went
> >through it all with me. We were no Ste and Jamie but we had our
> moments.
> >
> >As to my family: My mother confronted me about it too. I was 21 and I
> had got
> >involved with the gay group at University. I usually wore gay badges
> and forgot
> >to take one off before throwing a shirt in the washing. My mother
> found it and
> >we had the "It's probably all my fault" scene with both of us (but
> mainly me)
> >ending up in tears. Unlike your mum she didn't tell my father. I told
> him
> >myself a few years later (in retrospect I have no idea why I waited)
> and he was
> >okay about it. Not happy, but accepting.
> >
> >My mother's way of coping with it was to ignore the whole matter. It
> was never
> >discussed. If it came up the subject was changed. Jian and I had been
> together
> >for eight years before they met him and then it was over my body in
> intensive
> >care after a car accident. I nearly had to die before they accepted
> that he even
> >existed.
> >
> >Now they do accept him and I am getting on with them better than ever
> before.
> >
> >My brother on the other hand has always been on side and is now
> planning to
> >arrange a family gathering for our tenth anniversary next year.
> >
> >Which is all a way of saying stick in there - things can get better. If
> your
> >family can't accept you then remember there are a lot of people in the
> world who
> >will and who will love you.
> >
> >William
> >
> >Jamie G wrote:
> >
> >> Hi there Tom!
> >> thanks, school is so bad but it is great when you realise that it
> isn't
> >> just you who has to go through it all. They don't know, they just
> take
> >> the piss! Ok i don't go out with girls so maybe i am giving the game
> >> away just a little! I am so glad i have got the internet, if i
> couldn't
> >> talk it through with you lot i would go mad! my mum is all right
> about
> >> it so i guess that is something. I live with my mum you see. Actually
> >> she confronted me with it just like Sandra confronted 'Jamie' in the
> >> film! I see my dad sometimes and my mum told him. He refuses to
> believe
> >> it, goes mad at the suggestion that his son may be a 'fucking
> pufter',
> >> and on the few occasions that he does see me, tries to convert me to
> >> being 'A real man'! There you go.. what are dads for!
> >> Speak soon,
> >> Jamey
> >
> >

*****************************************************

Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:51:26 -0500
From: Brian
Subject: btlist: Chicago

Hi everyone,

Well I have bitten the bullet, and booked up to see the BT play in Chicago
this Friday. I have got accomodation and
my bus ticket. I have just a few questions for those who have been already,
or know the Chicago area.

How long does it take on the L to get from Harrison to Belmont. (Red line)
How late does the that line run? Is it
fairly safe?

An alternative (according to the theatre answering machine) is the 770 bus,
which actually goes to the Theater Building
where does it run to? Any idea of its schedule (timetable) or where I can
find out?

I know downtown Chicago fairly well, but have not ventured that far north
before.

Thanks in advance,

Brian.

*****************************************************

From: "Jamie G"
Subject: Re: btlist: BT in Birmingham
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:34:45 PDT

Hi there!
Well i want to go and see the performance! I would love to meet up with
you! I only have one problem and that is getting there and back!!
loads of love,
Jamie

>
>Hi all you Beautifull Things
>
>I have just been mailed by Peter about the performances at the
>Wellington Hotel in Birmingham.
>He Said
>Yes, the shows are on Wed and Thurs, 5th/6th August, at 8pm in the
>Wellington Hotel (well pub) on Bristol St, Birmingham, opposite the
>dome nightclub. Simply a pre-Edinburgh show in the intimacy of a pub
>backroom, therefore the set has had to be cut down a little (as has
>the stage space - watch the actors fall over each other - only
>kidding!) Tickets cost 5 pounds, and will be on sale on the door.
>
>As I work in Birmingham during the week Im definatly going, I was just
>wondering if any one else is planning to go. Perhaps we could meet up
peter
>has said that he may be able to hold tickets at the door if I want
>
>
>Warwick

*****************************************************

From: "Jamie G"
Subject: Re: btlist: Thanks for the welcome!
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:45:46 PDT

Hi Stu!
My school have a LGB society! No bloody way! All the teachers are
homophobic and it is a shit hole! As for local groups, well i went to
one once but it was 20 minutes away by train, cost me a fortune to get
there and wasn't really worth it. It would be great to set one up, but
almost impossible... no where to have it, no one to come etc! The
nearest thing to a gay meeting place around here is the toilets up the
road and no way am i going there!! i wish i lived in london or
something. Thanks for your help though Stu, sounds like you had an even
worse time at school than i do.
Loads of love and hopefully speak to you again soon,
jamie
XXX

>Hey Jamie, and hello all.
>
>
>Sorry it's taken a while to respond to this email, but i've been busy
>working.
>
>Jamie, some advice, if it helps or not.
>
>I'm sure that a person with our whit and charm, and looks will get a
bf,
>sooner, than later. I feel that there must be hundreds if not, half
the
>amount of students at school, who are gay, but haven't let the cat out
of
>the bag, so to speak. I was wondering if you'd checked out the clubs
and
>event that the school holds, and whether there was a lgb (lesbian gay
and
>Bisexual) society within your school ? or outside, locally to you.
>
>This would benefit both yourself, and them. As there may be others who
>are gay, but haven't told anyone, and have joined a society such as the
>lgb. Usually you can find out if these societies exist or not, through
a
>local paper, or from word of mouth.
>
>If all goes according to plan, you'll be joining a club/society in no
>time!!
>
>If however there isn't one in your school/area, then why not find some
>people who are also gay, and forming your own society, and get approval
>from an organisation like stonewall.
>
>
>I remember my days at school. Unfortunately I wasn't aware of society
in
>full. When I was 16 I was kept inside, because of my mental age, being
12
>at that time, and it affected my studies and my social life. I wasn't
>good at sports, I was small for my age, and I had problems learning to
>read and write and do simple arithmetic. I didn't even know about
being
>gay, and was being called it, at school, and i didn't understand. One
>thing which hit me by surprise was that the way i spoke, which was well
>spoken english, and also the pitch of my voice, which was high at that
>time, made them believe I was gay, and I wasn't, at that time. Unreal
>isn't it, but it's true, I tell you.
>
>Today I understand fully what it's all about, and wish I could have
turned
>back the clocks, and been a bit more mature, but it's not possible.
>
>To you, I wish you every success, and anyone else.
>
>
>with reguards.
>
>
>
>stu.
> x
>
>
>On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Jamie G wrote:
>
>> Hi there William,
>> Thanks for your support. Maybe things will work out in the end. Once
i
>> get a Boyfriend i will be happy. the rest can just get lost then. I
>> really wish i had a gay friend at school, that would be so great, but
it
>> just isn't going to happen i don't think. :-(! I can keep on hoping
>> though i guess!
>> Thanks again,
>> Jamie
>>
>>
>>
>> >Hi Jamey & all you wonderful people out there.
>> >
>> >School can be a bitch. I was lucky because I had one gay school
friend
>> who went
>> >through it all with me. We were no Ste and Jamie but we had our
>> moments.
>> >
>> >As to my family: My mother confronted me about it too. I was 21 and
I
>> had got
>> >involved with the gay group at University. I usually wore gay
badges
>> and forgot
>> >to take one off before throwing a shirt in the washing. My mother
>> found it and
>> >we had the "It's probably all my fault" scene with both of us (but
>> mainly me)
>> >ending up in tears. Unlike your mum she didn't tell my father. I
told
>> him
>> >myself a few years later (in retrospect I have no idea why I waited)
>> and he was
>> >okay about it. Not happy, but accepting.
>> >
>> >My mother's way of coping with it was to ignore the whole matter.
It
>> was never
>> >discussed. If it came up the subject was changed. Jian and I had
been
>> together
>> >for eight years before they met him and then it was over my body in
>> intensive
>> >care after a car accident. I nearly had to die before they accepted
>> that he even
>> >existed.
>> >
>> >Now they do accept him and I am getting on with them better than
ever
>> before.
>> >
>> >My brother on the other hand has always been on side and is now
>> planning to
>> >arrange a family gathering for our tenth anniversary next year.
>> >
>> >Which is all a way of saying stick in there - things can get better.
If
>> your
>> >family can't accept you then remember there are a lot of people in
the
>> world who
>> >will and who will love you.
>> >
>> >William
>> >
>> >Jamie G wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi there Tom!
>> >> thanks, school is so bad but it is great when you realise that it
>> isn't
>> >> just you who has to go through it all. They don't know, they just
>> take
>> >> the piss! Ok i don't go out with girls so maybe i am giving the
game
>> >> away just a little! I am so glad i have got the internet, if i
>> couldn't
>> >> talk it through with you lot i would go mad! my mum is all right
>> about
>> >> it so i guess that is something. I live with my mum you see.
Actually
>> >> she confronted me with it just like Sandra confronted 'Jamie' in
the
>> >> film! I see my dad sometimes and my mum told him. He refuses to
>> believe
>> >> it, goes mad at the suggestion that his son may be a 'fucking
>> pufter',
>> >> and on the few occasions that he does see me, tries to convert me
to
>> >> being 'A real man'! There you go.. what are dads for!
>> >> Speak soon,
>> >> Jamey
>> >
>> >

*****************************************************

Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:00:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Donald
Subject: Re: btlist: When Did The Party Happen?

It's good to hear about anglo Quebec. I'm one of those staunch Anglo-Saxon
types too. And I remember the Quebec Crisis too, both of them. There was
another one back in the '60's but we didn't have Martial Law. The first
one, I was involved in as a member of Military Intelligence with the Royal
Canadian Navy. Like the last time, in the 60's, if there was to be any
real problem, we were told that we could call on the 125000 US Marines who
were at the border, in and around Derby Line/Rock Island. Sort of scares
on to think of all those marines but so many of them are so damn cute. I
guess that's what I liked so much about the navy, all those cute young
things in their tight white bell bottoms. I was lucky enough to be a
Lieutenant RCN(X)NVR. There was never any shortage of cuties trying to
make a hit with the officers.
Bad, I know but I loved every minute of it.

On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, CARMEN  wrote:

>
> > You be careful when you admit that you are a loyal Canadian in anti-Canada
> > Quebec. But as a canadian, I'll fight to the death, if necessary, to see
> > La belle province, reamin part of this magnificant country.
> >
> >
> WHoa!
> First of all, I'm a Quebec Anglo.( Anglos don't know any better..:-) )..
> and second, I'm a Montrealer... and Montreal is a Federalist city..:-)
>
> Quebec isn't a hotbed of violence where separation is concerned... The
> October Crisis was a *long* time ago... most of the problems now are that
> the bloody politicians have managed to keep the majority of the
> francophone population ignorant of the real costs of separation... and
> have them believing that it's entirely likely and feasable... but we'll
> tough it out..:-) certainly the last thing we want is for armed for to get
> involved... that'd *really* blow the lid off the boiling pot!
> tory
>

*****************************************************

Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:12:17 -0700
From: Jenny Jo
Subject: Re: btlist: About me

Hi Jamie!
I'm doing pretty good thanks. I'm a bit late on this, too. I guess someone's
dad on one of my mailing lists is suing Hotmail for some stupid reason; so it
might shut down. Happy late birthday Jamie. I am totally obsessed with BT,
too, and I watch it probably more than I should.
See ya later,
Jenny

Jamie G wrote:

> Hi jenny Jo!
> How you doing! Sorry i am a bit late in saying hi but my hotmail account
> was 'closed for maintenance work' or something yesterday! I hate it so
> much when they do that! Anyway hi, i am new to this list too and you are
> almost the same age as me so it can't be bad! I turned 17 on the 5th of
> July! Glad you like 'beautiful Thing' i am totally obsessed by it and
> hopefully speak to you soon.
> Love,
> Jamie
>

*****************************************************

From: "Jamie G"
Subject: Re: btlist: About me
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:31:28 PDT

Hi Jenny!
Suing Hotmail!!! Sounds interesting. Americans like suing people don't
they?! Interesting!
Speak soon,
Jamie

>Hi Jamie!
>I'm doing pretty good thanks. I'm a bit late on this, too. I guess
someone's
>dad on one of my mailing lists is suing Hotmail for some stupid reason;
so it
>might shut down. Happy late birthday Jamie. I am totally obsessed
with BT,
>too, and I watch it probably more than I should.
>See ya later,
>Jenny
>
>Jamie G wrote:
>
>> Hi jenny Jo!
>> How you doing! Sorry i am a bit late in saying hi but my hotmail
account
>> was 'closed for maintenance work' or something yesterday! I hate it
so
>> much when they do that! Anyway hi, i am new to this list too and you
are
>> almost the same age as me so it can't be bad! I turned 17 on the 5th
of
>> July! Glad you like 'beautiful Thing' i am totally obsessed by it and
>> hopefully speak to you soon.
>> Love,
>> Jamie
>>

*****************************************************

Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:59:03 +1000
From: Andy <andy18@netspace.net.au>
Subject: Re: btlist: hi how do you unsubsrcibe

TheGodHi wrote:

>hi how do you unsubsrcibe this list
>
>This message was brought to you by the Beautiful Thing mailing list (btlist)

If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send
mail to <Majordomo with the following command in the
body of your email message:

unsubscribe btfanlist

Make sure this is in the MESSAGE BODY and not the subject line which should
be left blank.

OR if you are unsubscribing from another account, besides
"TheGodHi" send mail to <Majordomo with the
following command in the message body:

unsubscribe btfanlist

........................................................................
But then why would anyone want to unsubscribe from a list full of fun
loving people? :(

Andy.

*****************************************************

Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:12:09 +0200
From: "Patrick J.
Subject: Re: btlist: hi how do you unsubsrcibe

Hi Andy

[unsubscribe]

> But then why would anyone want to unsubscribe from a list full of fun
> loving people? :(
>

I don't know, but i'm new overhere. (subscribed today)

Bye!
Patrick

*****************************************************

Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:21:41 +1000
From: Andy
Subject: btlist: New subscribers

Patrick wrote:
>Hi Andy
>
>[unsubscribe]
>
>> But then why would anyone want to unsubscribe from a list full of fun
>> loving people? :(
>>
>
>I don't know, but i'm new overhere. (subscribed today)
>
>Bye!
> Patrick

Welcome Patrick. You're one of a hand full of new subscribers lately. So
tell me (or should I say "us") how did you find out about Beautiful Thing
and what effect did it have on you????

Cheers,

Andy.

*****************************************************

Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:41:30 +0200
From: "Patrick J.
Subject: Re: btlist: New subscribers

> Welcome Patrick. You're one of a hand full of new subscribers lately. So
> tell me (or should I say "us") how did you find out about Beautiful Thing
> and what effect did it have on you????
>

I talked about is with Martijn. I've got the movie and i am trying to find the
dutch subtitled version. The effect it had on me was that it was the first movie
about gay-people i realy liked. 2 weeks ago i was in the gloucester and i made
some fotographs overthere. I hope i can publish them on my homepage. :-) i have
to convert my homepage in english. but that's not a real problem.

Oh! i found out about the movie when 2 friens of mine talked about is. I haven't
seen in in the theatre but i had to have that movie as soon as it was imported
in holland.

If you have more questions, just ask them.

How did you find out about the movie and what effect did it have on you?

Bye!
Patrick

*****************************************************

Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:53:41 +1000
From: Andy
Subject: Re: btlist: New subscribers

Patrick asks:
>How did you find out about the movie and what effect did it have on you?
>

I found out about BT from a friend in Sydney Australia. He saw a preview
screening of it in a cinema and told me about it later. I checked it out in
the internet and became a fan without even seeing it. I did of course see
it on video about 12 months later. What a wait!!! I became fanatical about
it because it made me feel really good inside. As many people have said on
this list before, I wish I'd had a similar experience of finding love at
that age.

Andy. :)

*****************************************************

Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:30:07 +0200
From: "Patrick J.
Subject: Re: btlist: New subscribers

Hi Andy!

> I found out about BT from a friend in Sydney Australia. He saw a preview
> screening of it in a cinema and told me about it later. I checked it out in
> the internet and became a fan without even seeing it.

It can happen! I am a fan of the film and I also saw it on video. When it was
released on video i had to buy it. (I had never seen the movie before)

> I did of course see
> it on video about 12 months later. What a wait!!! I became fanatical about
> it because it made me feel really good inside.

I think you are right about that! :-)

> As many people have said on
> this list before, I wish I'd had a similar experience of finding love at
> that age.
>

:-) that's right. But if you say that it's allready to late :-)

How old are you? (if i may ask that?) :-)

I'm 27 years old. I'm glad my parents didn't find it I am gay at that age
because i think they had made it a big problem. Now they accept it. :-) (they
still have a bit dificulties about it but that's not my problem.)

Bye!
Patrick

*****************************************************

Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:02:05 -0500
From: Brian
Subject: Re: btlist: suits and ties

Hi Tom,

At 15:19 14/07/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi everyone. I know sharisse and I haven't written in a while, but I
>was out of town and my computer was freaked.
>
>I read about the hotmail lawsuit and the other comments and would be
>interested in knowing more.
>
>In reference to the comment that Americans like to sue, I know for a
>fact we do.
>My father and brother are both lawyers (and I am NOT) and they know all
>about lawsuits. A client once sued my father for $1 billion for no good
>reason.

That sounds like the start of a sketch Monty Python might of done
"I sue you, sir, for No Good Reason. What do you say to that, eh?"

I'm sorry, I am in silly mood today. I take it, truth, justice and the
American way prevailed and it was thrown out.

>People are also suing a man for reporting the Monica Lewinski
>scandal and others.

On the other hand that might not be such a bad idea, in the interests of
the sanity of the nation. I am sick of hearing about that affair.

> Lawsuits are everywhere and all you have to do in
>Indiana is watch TV for half an hour and you can take your pick of
>lawyers from three or four commercials. I don't like the fact that we
>sue so much. It's a sorry state. There can only be more lawsuits. At
>my brother's law school gaduation there were over 300 people who
>graduated law school. In one school alone. scary thought.
>

Well it keeps them off the streets... My favourite commercials are the ones
for the Psychic networks. Believe me, us Brits (and other aliens), are
really missing out on this one :) The first time I saw one I thought it
was some kind of satire. But no its for real, these people come on and tell
you how there psychic solved all there problems, and predicted when they
would meet the person of their dreams. Sometimes its in chat show format
and boy, does the host get excited... Its all very sad really, but hilarious.

God bless America is all I can say.

Always look on the bright side of life...

Brian. (whose off to get his free 10 minutes with his very own psychic...)

P.S. I don't want to offend any Americans out there, I really quite like it
here. Us Brits, are as "crazy as all get out" (as one American writer put it
and he liked the place) as well in our own way. But you got to laugh eh?

>Sharisse/Tom/JPG
>

*****************************************************

Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:19:14 -0700
From: tom
Subject: btlist: suits and ties

Hi everyone. I know sharisse and I haven't written in a while, but I
was out of town and my computer was freaked.

I read about the hotmail lawsuit and the other comments and would be
interested in knowing more.

In reference to the comment that Americans like to sue, I know for a
fact we do.
My father and brother are both lawyers (and I am NOT) and they know all
about lawsuits. A client once sued my father for $1 billion for no good
reason. People are also suing a man for reporting the Monica Lewinski
scandal and others. Lawsuits are everywhere and all you have to do in
Indiana is watch TV for half an hour and you can take your pick of
lawyers from three or four commercials. I don't like the fact that we
sue so much. It's a sorry state. There can only be more lawsuits. At
my brother's law school gaduation there were over 300 people who
graduated law school. In one school alone. scary thought.

Sharisse/Tom/JPG

*****************************************************

From: Sven
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:54:31 EDT
Subject: btlist: Great things about being Gay

I picked up a tiny book today called "501 Great Things About Being Gay." They
are actually quite amusing, and in most cases, true. If anyone would like, I
could post 1 or 2 every day to the list, just for S&G's. Let me know.
luvs,
Steve

*****************************************************

From: Hannes_
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 98 10:45:56 MET
Subject: RE: btlist: Great things about being Gay

Hi all (and Another big Hi! to all the newcomers - there are so many, I might
leave a name out)

Personally, I wouldn't mind! I'd actually enjoy it. But what you the others
think?

Hannes

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 3:45 AM
Subject: btlist: Great things about being Gay

I picked up a tiny book today called "501 Great Things About Being Gay." They
are actually quite amusing, and in most cases, true. If anyone would like, I
could post 1 or 2 every day to the list, just for S&G's. Let me know.
luvs,
Steve

*****************************************************

You are visitor #

Last Updated on 08/22/99

This page hosted by Get your own Free Home Page