continued.......
Interviewer: Before you met Anne there must have been a lesbian feeding frenzy around you?
Ellen: Well they were like pilot fish I'll tell you that I was like a big old shark swimming in the ocean. No! it was very interesting.. if there's anything encouraging to come out is once you come forth with you sexuality..I don't know what happens, but there's some pheromone that starts seeping out of your body somehow people sense it when your confident and sexual all of a sudden. So please, come out just for the sex of it really.
Interviewer: We could just tape that and use it as an ad.
Ellen: It is an ad... I dont want to recruit but it is a good thing.
Interviewer: Betty there you are in the role of the mother, when Ellen was growing up did you know that Ellen might be gay before she told you.
Betty: No I didnt really she was kind of a tomboy...she had an older brother called Vance who she adored and tried to be like, but a lot of little girls are tomboys.
Ellen: By sleeping the with the same woman, that's how I tried to be like him, whoever he would sleep with, I slept with.. I mean its a typical little sister thing.
Betty: No
ellen; No I'm kidding
Interviewer: The two of you came out basically at the same time. When you came out Anne who was more surprised yourself or your publicist?
Anne: Well I have to clarify something cos I never came out of anything,
and I used to say then, I didn't come out, I just came into, I just came into this love affair with Ellen, and then all of a sudden "oh she came out
of the closet", it wasn't like that.
Ellen: I can verify that she had never been with a women before.
Anne: But I think everyone around me was more shocked than i was definitely.
Interviewer: In the documentary you mentioned that after the oscars you went home for this 17 hour session. Betty weren't you worried?
Betty: The house is huge, I didn't know anything was going on.
Ellen: We live in, like Buckingham Palace, we have the guards out the front, she didn't know what was going on.
Interviewer: When you made the decision to come out, you must have known other
closet celebraties, did it sort of freak them out.
Ellen: Umm well I, yeah I know a lot of people in the business who are gay,
and who are not out and we were friendly before the show aired I notice a
little shift in people not wanting to be around me or a little
uncomfortableness if there were cameras.
Anne: Or they'll run past you very quickly.
Ellen: Yeah, there was someone who didn't want to be seen by us and ran
right around us at the Golden Globes, so rewind that tape if you have it.
Ellen: I have a feeling she will come out soon anyway.
Anne: Now you're narrowing it down to female
Ellen (with that grin): She is between the age of 30-33 and is a Tauras... that is all I will say.
Interviewer: We are coming up to the episode. The episode won an emmy last
year and now a Peabody award, the network must be beside themselves.
Ellen: I don't know they didn't call me, I haven't heard from anyone, that's
why it is such an honour to be here it really is. You don't know what it
means to me that a network that carries my show would fly me here and this
party and huge celebration and have this whole night when my own home my
own network didn't do this, and I can't thank you enough for having us.
Interviewer: Well I hope you enjoy the rest of the party.
THE SECOND HALF OF THE PARTY
Interviewer is asking when people got their first funny feeling they were gay.
ELLEN: My first was probably the first time I slept with a man, would be
the indication because while we were doing it I kept singing that Peggy Lee
song in my head.. "Is that all there is". I swear to God I'm not even making
that up... seriously just laying there thinking is that all there is, and
then I think, well I can go way way back but that was the first really
obvious sign that this is not working for me.
ELLEN STORY PREPARED BY HELEN BUCKLEY AGE: 26
LIVES NORTH LONDON, ENGLAND.
I ALSO AM STARTING AN ELLEN APPRECIATION SOCIETY (THE WORLD OF ELLEN).
ORIGINALLY IT WAS GOING TO BE A UK FAN CLUB, BUT I DON'T FEEL ITS FAIR TO
LIMIT IT TO UK FANS. SO IF YOU WANT TO GET INVOLVED PLEASE EMAIL ME HERE. I'LL BE PRODUCING A SMALL NEWSLETTER EACH QUARTER
ON ALL THE ELLEN GOSSIP, STORIES, REVIEWS, NEWS
PENPALS ETC. FROM FANS ACROSS THE WORLD... SO PLEASE CONTACT ME IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT MORE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST ON LINE/OFF LINE CLUB. SO PLEASE CONTACT ME SOON...HELEN.