Posted by LP on November 19, 1997 at 16:00:53:
In Reply to: Re: Santino vs. Armand posted by Cecilia on November 19, 1997 at 15:24:30:
: : I'm not so certain it wasn't more along the lines of Armand wanting Lestat to submit to him. Lestat's admitting love to Armand would have been a source of power for Armand, and Lestat didn't want to give him that power, and didn't want to pay that price for the blood. He came to Armand as a friend, and Armand choose to look at it as an estranged would-be lover. Question: Did Armand *really* love Lestat?
: Lestat seems to get himself in many problems for not saying those he loves he really does. Armand was hurt when Lestat left him alone, and was more hurt when he didn't want him when he returned. Of course he loved Lestat. But when he realized lestat only wanted to... how to say... use him, he decided to part Lestat from Louis (a choice I would question, Louis made him suffer a lot).
: : Now leave Santy alone!!! ;-)
: : 'Sides, Eric's on his side, and Eric's stronger than Mael
: yeah, but Khayman likes Armand, and he is stronger than Eric. (I feel silly, but I am really having fun).
But Khayman doesn't pay much attention to minor things like civil wars and dissention among the ranks. And if Khayman did anything against Eric, Maharet might just get involved. She still cares deeply for him, even though she doesn't much like Santino.
Also something else. We don't know exactly how powerful Eric is, but my guess is that he is equal or above Lestat. He has traveled with Maharet for at least a thousand years, and I *highly* doubt that that relationship was all platonic. More likely that there was quite a bit of blood sharing over the years and since Maharet is fourth down form the source of all power, that blood, combined with Eric's own age, would make him really, really strong. So Khayman is probably not all that much stronger than Eric, for surely there must be a power thresh-hold for the vampires.
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: : : Then you mean that Santino attacked Marius only because he was an *heretic*? I don't agree, they tortured Armand until they were sure he didn't know anything about them.
: : Because the leagends of the Source Of All Power *might* have been true. But even after torturing Armand there was still no proof.
: : Having Marius alive and living among humans and creating fledglings was a threat to Santino's power and authority, and it had to be neutralized. And it was. Marius stayed out of the picture after Santy's attack. Objective achieved. (While granted he did want him dead, the goal was still achieved. Other vampires could no longer question, Hey why can't we be doing that?)
: Well, Marius certainly *dissapeared* after that. But Santino made all that mess for nothing, he could have learned a lot from Marius. Finally, he, Santino, also had to change.
Yeah, right! Marius would have killed him. Remember Marius told Lestat that he had killed other vampires for knowing the old legends. (Did he ever go after any because they knew *him*? I can't remember. Marius would have taught Santino nothing. Why should Santino try to learn from him then, especially when he was a threat to his power?
Santino was right not to try and learn anything from Marius. If the legends had not been true, yet Santino spared Marius, this would only have given Marius an opportunity to gather his power and grind Santino into vampire meat.
: And Armand won that game! (smile)
He did not!! LP.